Uh oh. Many of Us May Be In Trouble

Well said.

True Islam, doesn't need to be defeated, it's the radicals like you said that need to be dealt with and like you said, we need to use more diplomacy in dealings with the MidEast in more of a mediator roll, from afar, as opposed to troops on the ground.

It's time that the U.N. and all the other nations who criticize us to step up, do something more than point out our failings. We can diplomatically give our support or approval, but no troops or money.

I too don't advocate isolationism, but it's quite obvious that the heavy hand approach with demands or consequences doesn't work, and hasn't worked to reach long term goals, for more than half a century.

We need to decide that we can monitor and police international events and situations without being the policeman that responds.

 

That is why I made this statement:

"We can best maintain security at home with restrictive immigration policies and finding new technologies and conserving to reduce our demand for foreign oil."

Of course, GW loves more immigrants from the ME, from wikipedia:

"Muslim immigration to the U.S. is rising and in 2005 alone more people from Muslim countries became legal permanent U.S. residents ? nearly 96,000 ? than in any year in the previous two decades."

Yes, we need to make sure our immigrants come from parts of the world not tainted by radical Islam. Europe is catching hell at this moment due to poorly regulated immigration. Ours is poorly regulated too. Fortunately hispanics don't have a significant minority, it don't take many, who blow themselves up in marketplaces.

The pattern that forms is the more you mix with nutcases the more likely you are to get harmed by one.

 

When it comes to radical Muslims entering our country, we need to be concerned about the northern and southern borders. Canada is a bit lax like much of Europe.

 

Let me requote from what I just added to my prior post>

"Muslim immigration to the U.S. is rising and in 2005 alone more people from Muslim countries became legal permanent U.S. residents ? nearly 96,000 ? than in any year in the previous two decades."

The Iraqi war has actually put pressure to increase Muslim emigrants to the US. It ain't made us more secure.

 

Where to start......

While this sounds good it is a completely unrealistic goal because we need Americans to conserve, a thing nobody is willing to do so whatever axctions we want to consider, we must stay inside the realm of reality.

Even if we opened up all the restricted areas for drilling (liberals will stop this) we could not possibly meet our needs today, much less the increased needs that are going to come.

I don't see how this is GW's fault, he does not make the guidelines, maybe some consideration by the liberal controlled Congress is in order.

Isolationist tactics will not work, our society is too fully immersed into the PC religion to change now. We are letting in more ME people because we feel guilty for attacking ME people.

We have lots of nutcases that are Americans. We have them blaming ourselves for 9/11, we even have them claiming Bush made the attack and not Muslims. We can't stop hundreds of billions of dollars worth of drugs from entering the Country, if a determined terrorist wants in, no amount of immigration laws or technology will be able to stop him.

 

#1 The stats I presented were for 2005. The Republicans controlled congress in 2005. We had a Republican president and a Republican congress and they allowed increased immigration of Muslims. This is how Europe got to where they are today. GW has supported expansionary immigration since he was governor of Texas.

#2 I suggest we not attack ME people without insuring it advances our national interests. We should have thrown all our military force in Afghanistan, not invaded a secular state, Iraq, and strengthening fundamentalist Iran in the process.

Basic economics tells you that as a good becomes more expensive alternative substitutes will come into place and attempts to reduce the use of that good will be made. I'm looking for a vehicle right now. Fuel economy is a much greater priority than the last time I purchased a vehicle. If you factor in the cost of the Iraq War into oil prices you get a more realistic idea of what oil is really costing us in dollars, not to even mention blood.

 

What else is interesting about Pat's article is that is was written in 2000.. over a year before 9/11 even happened. He could apparently see the writing on the wall.

 

Yeah but we were tying to work with Saddam with the food for oil program. This was a direct counter for the sanctions until we could get Saddam's arms from him. It failed because the funds were mis-used.

Oil-for-Food Programme - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like I've said before, your damn if you do and damned if you don't. But we are the superpower and it is up to us to keep the world safe.