Told you so...

Good reading for appeasers and apologists of islam...

Suicide bombers follow Quran, concludes Pentagon briefing

Tasked with pinpointing motivation, analysts find terrorists 'rational actors' following 'holy book'

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

With suicide bombings spreading from Iraq to Afghanistan, the Pentagon has tasked intelligence analysts to pinpoint what's driving Muslim after Muslim to do the unthinkable.

Their preliminary finding is politically explosive: it's their "holy book" the Quran after all, according to intelligence briefings obtained by WND.

In public, the U.S. government has made an effort to avoid linking the terrorist threat to Islam and the Quran while dismissing suicide terrorists as crazed heretics who pervert Islamic teachings.

"The terrorists distort the idea of jihad into a call for violence and murder," the White House maintains in its recently released "National Strategy for Combating Terrorism" report.

But internal Pentagon briefings show intelligence analysts have reached a wholly different conclusion after studying Islamic scripture and the backgrounds of suicide terrorists. They've found that most Muslim suicide bombers are in fact students of the Quran who are motivated by its violent commands – making them, as strange as it sounds to the West, "rational actors" on the Islamic stage.



Note the koran in his hand!

In Islam, it is not how one lives one's life that guarantees spiritual salvation, but how one dies, according to the briefings. There are great advantages to becoming a martyr. Dying while fighting the infidels in the cause of Allah reserves a special place and honor in Paradise. And it earns special favor with Allah.

"Suicide in defense of Islam is permitted, and the Islamic suicide bomber is, in the main, a rational actor," concludes a recent Pentagon briefing paper titled, "Motivations of Muslim Suicide Bombers."

Suicide for Allah a 'win-win'

"His actions provide a win-win scenario for himself, his family, his faith and his God," the document explains. "The bomber secures salvation and the pleasures of Paradise. He earns a degree of financial security and a place for his family in Paradise. He defends his faith and takes his place in a long line of martyrs to be memorialized as a valorous fighter.

"And finally, because of the manner of his death, he is assured that he will find favor with Allah," the briefing adds. "Against these considerations, the selfless sacrifice by the individual Muslim to destroy Islam's enemies becomes a suitable, feasible and acceptable course of action."

The briefing – produced by a little-known Pentagon intelligence unit called the Counterintelligence Field Activity, or CIFA – cites a number of passages from the Quran dealing with jihad, or "holy" warfare, martyrdom and Paradise, where "beautiful mansions" and "maidens" await martyr heroes. In preparation for attacks, suicide terrorists typically recite passages from six surahs, or chapters, of the Quran: Baqura (Surah 2), Al Imran (3), Anfal (8), Tawba (9), Rahman (55) and Asr (103).

CIFA staffs hundreds of investigators and analysts to help coordinate Pentagon security efforts at U.S. military installations at home and abroad.

The Pentagon unit is especially concerned about a new wave of suicide bombings hitting Afghanistan.

Suicide bombings have killed more than 200 people in Afghanistan this year, up from single digits two years ago. On Tuesday, a suicide bomber detonated his explosive vest and killed 18 outside an Afghan government compound. Last week, a suicide bomber riding a bike killed at least four NATO soldiers. And earlier this month, a suicide car bomber rammed into a U.S. military convoy near the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, killing 16 people, including two American soldiers.

500 suicide bombers in reserve

The U.S. command in Afghanistan now warns that a suicide bombing cell is operating inside the Afghan capital. Meanwhile, the Taliban's top military commander told ABC News he has 500 suicide bombers at his disposal.

"We have so many of them that it is difficult to accommodate and arm and equip them," Mullah Dadullah Akhund said. "Some of them have been waiting for a year or more for their turn to be sent to the battlefield."

The emergence of a suicide cell in Kabul troubles military analysts because suicide attacks are the most effective weapon Muslim terrorists can use against the West. The Rand Corp. predicts they'll pose a serious and constant threat to the U.S. for years to come.

The U.S. intelligence community is growing increasingly worried, as well.

"Most jihadist groups will use suicide attacks focused primarily on soft targets to implement asymmetric warfare strategy," warns the just-declassified executive summary of the National Intelligence Estimate on the global terror threat. "Fighters with experience in Iraq are a potential source of leadership for jihadists pursuing these tactics."

Many scholars and media pundits, however, insist Muslim suicide bombers are not driven by religion.

"Beneath the religious rhetoric with which [such terror] is perpetrated, it occurs largely in the service of secular aims," claims Professor Robert A. Pape of the University of Chicago. "Suicide terrorism is mainly a response to foreign occupation rather than a product of Islamic fundamentalism."

He says U.S. foreign policy is more a factor than faith.

"Though it speaks of Americans as infidels, al-Qaida is less concerned with converting us to Islam than removing us from Arab and Muslim lands," Pape said.

But what about the recent video by Adam Gadahn, the American al-Qaida, warning fellow Americans to convert to Islam before al-Qaida attacks again?

"He never mentions virgins or the benefits Islamic martyrs receive in Heaven," Pape asserted.

In fact, Gadahn notes 36 minutes into his speech that Allah reserves the highest rewards – "honors and delights" – for martyrs in Paradise.

"[He] promised the martyr in his path the reward over and above the reward of the believer," Gadahn said. "He has promised them honors and delights too numerous to go into here."

The 9/11 hijackers and the London bombers made martyrdom videos. In their last testaments, they recite the Quran while talking of their "love of death" and "sacrificing life for Allah." Seven martyrdom videotapes also were recovered by British authorities in the foiled transatlantic sky terror plot.

Before the 9/11 attacks, the hijackers shaved and doused themselves with flower water in preparation for their weddings with the beautiful virgins in Paradise. "Know that the women of Paradise are waiting, calling out 'Come hither, friend of Allah,'" according to a four-page letter circulated among them titled "THE LAST NIGHT." "They have dressed in their most beautiful clothing."

But are the virgins scriptural or apocryphal? French documentarian Pierre Rehov, who interviewed the families of suicide bombers and would-be bombers in an attempt to find out why they do it, says it's not a myth or fantasy of heretics.

He says there's no doubt the Quran "promises virgins" to Muslim men who die while fighting infidels in jihad, and it's a key motivating factor behind suicide terrorism.

"It's obviously connected to religion," said Rehov, who features his interviews with Muslims in a recently released film, "Suicide Killers." "They really believe they are going to get the virgins."

He says would-be Muslim suicide bombers he's interviewed have shown him passages in the Quran "in which it's absolutely written that they're going to get the girls in the afterlife."

Muslim clerics do not disavow the virgins-for-martyrs reward as a perverted interpretation of the Quran.

And even Muslim leaders in the West condone suicide bombings. British scholar Azzam Tamimi recently told 8,000 Muslims in Manchester, England, that dying while fighting "George Bush and Tony Blair" is "just" and "the greatest act of martyrdom." Earlier, he said it's "the straight way to pleasing Allah."

And the founder of an allegedly mainstream Muslim group in Washington – the Council on American-Islamic Relations – also has given his blessing to suicide bombings.

Addressing a youth session at the 1999 Islamic Association for Palestine's annual convention in Chicago, CAIR founder Omar Ahmad praised suicide bombers who "kill themselves for Islam," according to a transcript provided by terror expert Steve Emerson's Investigative Project.

"Fighting for freedom, fighting for Islam, that is not suicide," Ahmad asserted. "They kill themselves for Islam."

Osama bin Laden has encouraged "Muslims brothers" to defeat the U.S. and U.K. with suicide attacks.

"I tell you to act upon the orders of Allah," he said in 2003, "be united against Bush and Blair and defeat them through suicide attacks so that you may be successful before Allah."

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Told You So!

 

Ben,Midas is just being so off-beam as to tar all Muslims as terrorists.Surely,there's some nutcases that claim to be Muslims,but the Cult of Rome is the biggest spreader of hate in history.The Cult of Rome are scum of the earth along with the Ku Klux Klan.

Aidan.

 

So the KKK are just as bad as "true" muslims??? This is a tactic of muslim apologists and appeasers. They bring up skin heads or the KKK and cry out, "See!...See!, it is not just muslim fanatics...there are Timothy McVeighs all about!"

Well, Let's look at the numbers, shall we??

Source: Archives at Tuskegee Institute.

KKK Lynchings: By Year and Race

Year - Whites - Blacks - Total
1882 64 49 113
1883 77 53 130
1884 160 51 211
1885 110 74 184
1886 64 74 138
1887 50 70 120
1888 68 69 137
1889 76 94 170
1890 11 85 96
1891 71 113 184
1892 69 161 230
1893 34 118 152
1894 58 134 192
1895 66 113 179
1896 45 78 123
1897 35 123 158
1898 19 101 120
1899 21 85 106
1900 9 106 115
1901 25 105 130
1902 7 85 92
1903 15 84 99
1904 7 76 83
1905 5 57 62
1906 3 62 65
1907 3 58 61
1908 8 89 97
1909 13 69 82
1910 9 67 76
1911 7 60 67
1912 2 62 64
1913 1 51 52
1914 4 51 55
1915 13 56 69
1916 4 50 54
1917 2 36 38
1918 4 60 64
1919 7 76 83
1920 8 53 61
1921 5 59 64
1922 6 51 57
1923 4 29 33
1924 0 16 16
1925 0 17 17
1926 7 23 30
1927 0 16 16
1928 1 10 11
1929 3 7 10
1930 1 20 21
1931 1 12 13
1932 2 6 8
1933 2 24 26
1934 0 15 15
1935 2 18 20
1936 0 8 8
1937 0 8 8
1938 0 6 6
1939 1 2 3
1940 1 4 5
1941 0 4 4
1942 0 6 6
1943 0 3 3
1944 0 2 2
1945 0 1 1
1946 0 6 6
1947 0 1 1
1948 1 1 2
1949 0 3 3
1950 1 1 2
1951 0 1 1
1952 0 0 0
1953 0 0 0
1954 0 0 0
1955 0 3 3
1956 0 0 0
1957 1 0 1
1958 0 0 0
1959 0 1 1
1960 0 0 0
1961 0 1 1
1962 0 0 0
1963 0 1 1
1964 2 1 3
1965 0 0 0
1966 0 0 0
1967 0 0 0
1968 0 0 0
Total 1,297 - 3,445 - 4,742

Since the muslim attacks on 9/11/01, true muslims have have committed over 9,600 additional attacks in the name of their religion (as per the koran)

Stop apologizing to Muslims...Tell them to take responsibility and stop the jihad...or they will force our hand to kill this cancer...again!

 

Aidan, step away from the keyboard. There are sane people here who discuss sane topics. You on the other hand...

 

More facts that "true" muslims kill and committ more terrorism in the name of Islam than all others combined:

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So, you think the Ku Klux Klan (as above) and the Spanish Inquisition are bad? So do I, but...let's put the mumbers in perspective, shall we??

More civilians were killed by "true" muslims in two hours on September 11th than in the 36 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland:

http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violence/death95w.htm

More people are killed by "true" muslims each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined:

http://www.crisismagazine.com/october2003/madden.htm

19 Muslim animals killed more innocents in two hours on September 11th than the number of American criminals executed in the last 65 years:

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/ESPYdate.pdf

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Told you so! I know, I know...the truth hurts!

 

Midas,you are being a dickhead,just like the Wanker of Rome (Pope Bentdick of Rome)!

Aidan.

 

My son Aidan, pull that wanker out of your ear and put it down.

Cat Pope

 

I can see that all the smart people have left the building (thread).

 

What's it called when somebody takes a second User name and pretends to be someone else? Someone here has just decided to screw with Aiden for Sh**s and giggles and I wonder who? Is it YOU!

 

Know your koran? The Saudis sure do. This week they lashed two homosexuals to within an inch of their lives, and had the nerve to lecture the EU on its "human rights violations" (such as a classroom ban on headscarves).

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22532620-23109,00.html

http://arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=102017&d=4&m=10&y=2007

Told you so!

 

You'll have to take (your issue) up with the wife. You see, she doesn't really collect coins as aggressively as I do, but is very active politically (Republican, Conservative) and with her Catholic Church. She simply joined after me telling her of Aidan's antics and considered him to be fair game.

She (Jen) now has a screen name (Catholic Pope) here in the PRWE section. You can check with the site owner, if it really bothers you. FYI, there are many households with more than one computer using the internet at the same time. "Apple Airport Extreme" is a miraculously powerful wireless system. I can use my laptop over a quarter of a mile away and we have actually had all six systems logged onto the net at the same time.

Just something else you'll have to deal with...

Take Care Moen
Ben

 

I stand corrected...sort of, I guess that two people from the same household are technically not one user under two User IDs. Nice to have you along Jen!
Ben and Jen...You guys don't get teased about the whole Affleck/Lopez thing do ya?

 

Cough bull****

802.11n which is the latest in wireless and used in the Apple Airport Extreme has just over double the range of 802.11g which is 100 meteres, They say 802.11n is 250 metres. 250 Metre(s) = 0.1553427981 Mile(s). Then you have to take account walls and interference along with weather climate and that would probably bring you down some. Then you have all the other wireless signals that can generate even more interfernce depending on your area and most home users don't know the 1, 6, 11 rule for channel use and don't use a channel finding software to find out what channel cells people are using around you.

 

Hey bones, get a load of this guy! He has never been in South Dakota or he would have known there are no walls, power lines etc in many places in the state. In fact the only thing between bones house and the North Pole is a barbed wire fence, which doesn't carry electricity unless its been hit by lightning. The curverture of the earth is all that prevents you from looking all the way to Moen's home in Illinois.

 

It doesn't really matter. Sometimes it's just hard for a city boy to understand how wide-open the country still is.

Self reliance in the country goes far beyond taking a homeowners class where changing the batteries or light-bulb in a flashlight requires more than one hour of instruction...

Take Care
Ben

 

More proof that these Palestinian "true" muslim animals have NO desire for peace...unless you convert and submit yourself to their allah and sharia law, which is the definition of islam itself!

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Palestinian Authority religious leader: "Muslims are masters of the world"

by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook

One of the defining principles of Hamas and the Islamic Brotherhood is their insistence that the only truth is Islam and that the world is destined to be enlightened only when ruled by Islam.

A similar Islamic supremacist ideology was expressed recently in an article by a Palestinian Authority religious leader who was appointed last year by Mahmoud Abbas as member of the Supreme Fatwa Council: "Muslims are masters of the world, its leaders and teachers, even if the West rejects this."

"The Muslims and their societies are more advanced and more sublime than the West and its societies are more perfect in value system and humanity. The fact that there are those who believe that these are Western values it is a delusion and false, since the Muslims are masters of the world, its leaders and teachers, even if the West rejects this."

This continues the ongoing social-religious evolution that PMW has been reporting for some time, in which the radical Islamic ideology of Hamas is being adopted by the Fatah of Mahmoud Abbas.

See PMW's recent report on the newest PA schoolbooks, "From Nationalist Battle to Religious Conflict"

The following was written by Dr. Hamza Dhib Mustafa, member of the Supreme Fatwa Council, appointed by Abbas in August 2006:

"To what does the publication of the declaration of human rights in the West testify in 1948? Didn't Islam issue something much greater 14 centuries ago?

"Despite these rights, reserved for humans, we see chilling and embarrassing operations from the states who claim to be democratic, or is it possible that they classify themselves as one of the states of the First World, since what did the United States do in South America? What did America do in Iraq and Afghanistan? And what does the Israeli occupation do to our Palestinian people, by occupying its land, the requisition of its property and its banishment to everywhere on the face of the earth?

"All this in the era of the declaration on human rights. Despite this declaration, humanity is still suffering much from the degradation of human respect, from racial discrimination and from social injustice, and by whom? By those that declared these rights!...

"Yet, these rights Islam espoused them 14 centuries ago. Europe and the West in general, would never have reached these principles, had they not been influenced by the advanced Islamic culture and had they not borrowed much from it, including this declaration."

"Islamic societies are cultured, humane and righteous societies, since oppression had not found its way to them and the killing did not spread nor extend among them. They do not go beyond the punishment defined by Islamic law with all that pertains to human rights, regardless of their religion, race, color and their countries [of origin], since human beings are equal from the point of view of Islam. Everyone is equal under the law in terms of their rights and obligations."

"It says in the Quran, in the words [of Allah], praise him:

(the source and cause of the the world's cancer of islam)

"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you." [Quran, 49,13]

"This and more, Islam promises various rights to the human. It promises him freedom of religion and citizenship, freedom of thought, the right to property, political freedom and his right to employment. The thing that has no doubt is that Islam preceded Europe and the West, in general, with all that pertains to matters of human rights by no less than 13 centuries.

"The Muslims and their societies are more advanced and more sublime than the West and its societies. They are earlier in human civilization, and are more perfect in value system and humanity. The fact that there are those who believe that these are Western values - it is a delusion and false, since the Muslims are masters, leaders and teachers of the world, even if the West rejects this. It is no wonder that this is rejected by the West, the most eager rival of Islam, its followers and its culture. But shocking and amazing is that these are opinions of some Muslims, and this misdirects their compass from the path of truth, righteousness and wisdom.

Quite a number of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] wish they could turn you (Muslims) back to be infidels after you have believed, from selfish envy, after the Truth hath become Manifest unto them. [Quran, 2,109]

[Dr. Hamza Dhib Mustafa, member of the Palestinian Authority Supreme Fatwa Council, Al Quds, Aug. 28, 2007]


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Told you so! These muslim animals are just following the commands in the koran...the source and the main reason for the world's cancer created by their pedophile terrorist prophet.

 

More proof From the Assyrian International News Agency never to trust "true" muslims that follow the koran as mohammad intended:

The Islamist Head Fake

Posted GMT 9-30-2007 7:21:50

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It's now believed that several leaders of the Muslim establishment in America last decade conspired to infiltrate the U.S. political system, change Middle East policy and gradually Islamize America. At the same time, they hatched a plot to fund overseas terrorists.

Of course, they couldn't do this out in the open. So they set up benign-sounding nonprofits and charities to "camouflage" their traitorous activities, say U.S. prosecutors who cite wiretap transcripts and other documents uncovered in a criminal probe of the Holy Land Foundation, the largest Muslim charity in America.

During a secret meeting at a Philadelphia hotel, the charity's president and other prominent Muslim leaders were recorded allegedly plotting ways to disguise payments to Hamas terrorists as charity.

"I swear by Allah that war is deception," said Shukri Abu-Baker, now on trial in the federal terror-funding case. "We are fighting our enemy with a kind heart. . . . Deceive, camouflage, pretend that you're leaving while you're walking that way. Deceive your enemy."

Another participant at the Hamas summit was the founder of the Council on American Islamic-Relations, or CAIR, the largest Muslim civil-rights group in the country and an unindicted co-conspirator in the terror-funding case.

Adding to Abu-Baker's point, Omar Ahmad compared the deception needed to fool the infidels with the head fake in basketball. "He makes a player believe that he is doing this while he does something else," Ahmad said. "I agree with you. . . . Politics is a completion of war."

The Islamist head fake has worked all too well over the past decade. Blind acceptance and validation of Muslim leaders with questionable loyalties hardly missed a beat in Washington even after 9/11.

Many were invited to the White House and Congress. The head of the FBI spoke at their conferences, calling them "mainstream" and "moderate." Many naive officials still confer legitimacy on them.

But what Muslim leaders tell us and what they tell Muslim audiences are often two entirely different things. The deception is astonishing. They've really played us for suckers.

Here are just a few examples:

Sami Al-Arian: The popular and respected Muslim activist was a White House guest of both presidents Clinton and Bush. He assured his hosts he was both peace-loving and patriotic. "I am a very moderate Muslim person," he said. "I also condemn violence in all its forms."

All the while, Al-Arian was secretly running a U.S. beachhead for Palestinian terrorists. In a speech at a Cleveland mosque, he once thundered: "Let's damn America, let's damn Israel, let's damn their allies until death."

He's now a convicted terrorist.

Abdurahman Alamoudi: This pillar of the Muslim community also went from the White House to the Big House. But not before developing the Pentagon's Muslim chaplain corps, and acting as a goodwill ambassador for the State Department.

He, too, strongly denounced terror. "We are against all forms of terrorism," he claimed. "Our religion is against terrorism."

Privately, however, he raised major funds for al-Qaida and was caught on tape grumbling that Osama bin Laden hadn't killed enough Americans in the U.S. embassy bombings.

Also, at a Muslim conference, he was recorded saying the following:

"Muslims sooner or later will be the moral leadership of America. It depends on me and you. Either we do it now or we do it after a hundred years, but this country will become a Muslim country. And I think if we are outside this country, we can say, 'Oh, Allah, destroy America.' But once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it."

Ali Al-Timimi: A noted imam and native Washingtonian, he also put on a moderate face in public while secretly plotting against us. The internationally known Muslim scholar had government clearance -- even worked with a former White House chief of staff -- and was invited to speak on Islam to the U.S. military.

Publicly, the imam denounced Islamic violence. "My position against terrorism and Muslim-inspired violence against innocent people is well known by Muslims," he said.

But privately, a darker picture emerged. Five days after the 9/11 attacks, he called them "legitimate" and rallied young Muslim men at his mosque to carry out more "holy war" and "violent jihad."

Al-Timimi even cheered the Columbia space shuttle disaster, calling it a "good omen" for Muslims because it was a blow to their "greatest enemy." He also said the U.S. "should be destroyed."

This high-profile moderate is also now behind bars, for soliciting terror and treason.

What other Muslim leaders are betraying our trust? Who else is "camouflaging" their radical beliefs and agenda with smiles and soft rhetoric?

To reach out to the Muslim community, we must deal with its leaders. But based on their proven track record of dissembling, we can no longer go on blindly trusting them.

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The worse part? These are muslim animals RIGHT HERE in OUR country!!!

Told you so!

 

So his house has no walls huh lol, and there is no eletrical wiring ( even a generator?) or lighting in his house either huh. Also did you see me state that air quality has issue too and also since you mentioned it the curvature of the earth also effects wireless. He has no dimmer switches in his house, or maybe sattelite. If you don't belive me look it up. If you want best info I would suggest looking at the Cisco academy notes on the subject who are partnered with Linksys the leader in wireless technology.

Even if its still open as you said it cant do a quarter of a mile since the technology is unable to do that. 802.11n which is best out for home wireless can only do what I specified which isnt even 1/5 of a mile.

And before you even think of trying to argue it realize that I am a ccna certified network admin with a diploma in computer systems technology and networking. Its what I do for a living regardless if I have gone to South Dakota. Is that the best you have Old dan you hateful old man.

Btw noticed you never replied when I proved you said hateful comment about muslims all being in one area. So you tried to jump at this.

You realize hateful people can never win!!!!!!!

 

Even in wide open area you can not achieve that distance!!!!!!!!

And yes I know how wide an open area can be even though I am not from the states and maybe gone there 3 times.

Its impossible unless you put repeaters in between which I highly doubt you own.

And now you attack a person for not being to south dakota and being a city boy hahaha. Wow I have one statement for you guys. You need the cure for mad cowboy disease.

All I did was bring in a fact that your technology can't do what you said regardless even in best of circumstances and all you guys can do is be hateful lol.