Revelation X111 by Ephraim

Discussion in 'Religion' started by michael777, Oct 6, 2008.

  1. michael777
    Mischievious

    michael777 Member

    To anyone searching for a logical answer to Bible Prophecy, this letter is for You.

    In general, this is a letter that summarizes all of Revelation 13. Its purpose is to show the sequence of events which formed the conclusions in the letter entitled, "The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas." Revelation 13 is a puzzle, a parable whose pieces are only revealed through the progress of time.This letter will attempt to bring all the pieces together into one narrative. Since questions concerning prophecy never change and answers never change, this summary will answer almost any question.

    I would like to make a couple things very clear before I begin. These are interpretations from a Christian perspective. They are not intended in any way to be antisemitic. Furthermore, I believe the Jewish people have every right to live within secure boundaries and be independent.

    Nevertheless, I will continue to be in disagreement with the majority because they do not have the will or the knowledge to admit they promote a false interpretation. The interpretation I am eluding to is the Revived Roman Empire theory. This scenario has been a dead end for years. I must admit though before WWI it had some validity. No ancient interpreter could have known that the Ottoman Empire would break into so many different sovereign states. Until the fall of the Ottoman empire the only possible answer seemed to be Europe. I apologize if this narrative moves too fast. It is assumed that those reading this page are somewhat versed in Revelation. HERE WE GO.

    In reference to Revelation 13:1- The Beast rising up out of the sea is the Nation of Israel as it appears after the SIX DAY WAR in 1967.

    What is meant by the term Beast? In general, most interpretations have this concept correct. According to most scholars he is the leader of ten nations. When the term Beast is used it can mean either the nations or the leader of those nations. It is the countries he leads and his location that is in dispute.

    My interpretation of Rev. 13:1 is as follows:

    The Beast can be either a group of seven nations that will wage war, which include Israel or the leader of those nations. In this case, that leader is Mahmoud Abbas. He is identified by his actions and the number 666. The glue that binds them together is Islam and their hate for Israel. This was the outcome of the 1967 war. It brought Israel into a permanent state of conflict with all of her neighbors. The beast was born in 1948 with Israel declaring its independence. A closer look can be seen in Rev.17. When Israel declared its independence, five nations went to war with her and five were vanquished. The word used for vanquished is fallen in verse Rev. 17:10. "And one is", this is Israel. Israel won her war of independence. The other that had not yet come is the Palestinian Authority, which brings us to Rev.13:1 again. The misinterpretation of Rev.17 has been the most responsible for the the Revived Roman empire theory.

    The beast rising up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns is as follows. Seven heads are seven mountains as indicated in Rev.17. Ten horns are ten kings. This is a partial explanation of this parable. The most critical word here is the word head. If the correct meaning is applied to the word head its answer will make sense. In scriptures a mountain has two meanings. It can be either a mountain range or a nation. In this case when a head is referenced in Revelation 13:1 we are talking about nations. This applies to both the heads of Rev.13:1 as well as the beasts mortal head wound. The mortal head wound is the nation or land as claimed by the Palestinians. It is the beasts head (nation) that is wounded. The Beast is Mahmoud Abbas. It was mortally wounded in the Six Day War and has been revived in the Oslo Accords. The beast of Revelation 17 and Revelation 13 are the same because they involve the same countries.

    Every theory must have a good foundation. This sequence of events can only point to one individual. I have been writing about these events for over a decade. If I had been wrong from the beginning, this scenario could not have made it all the way to its finish. As it was I had no idea that I was looking for a date, 6/16/06. I was just following the money trail. Was it a coincidence that the policy which enabled them to buy and sell and the date 666 occurred on the same day? I don't think so.

    It is always wise to search for the best answer. Who could fault someone for changing there mind when a better answer comes along? It is not dishonor to correct a mistake, but to continue giving false information especially in the realm of prophecy is dishonorable. Maybe some truly believe what they are saying, as for me I quit the big money preachers long ago. A hundred years ago I could understand, 20 years ago I could understand, not today...This is why the Lord will come as a thief. They're all looking in the wrong place...

    One last item needs to be mentioned here before I finish my complaint against our so-called prophecy teachers. It is a gross misinterpretation which needs to be cited. For some reason anytime the Beast is discussed he is immediately confused with Satan or the antichrist. Satan is not the Beast. He is in heaven right now. He will be cast out of heaven as per Revelation 12 or if you prefer 2nd Thess. chap. 2. The falling away is Satan and his angels being cast out of heaven. These are two different verses that say the same thing. Satan can only be revealed to the world after the Rapture of the Church. Christians will not go through the Great Tribulation which will last for 3.5 years. Satan will be a God to the Muslims. He is also known as the Mahdi. Mahmoud Abbas will also be worshipped to a lesser degree because he will have achieved his goal, the conquest of Jerusalem...Ephraim aka michael777
     
  2. stainless

    stainless New Member

    Here is your flaws:

    6/16/06 is not 666...it is 6166.

    Some dude I have never heard of before is the Beast of Revelations.


    also,

    It's great that you have it figured out the metaphors.

    can you say FAIL?

    / thread

    stainless
     
  3. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    can you tell us more with less words,
     
  4. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    :)
     
  5. michael777
    Mischievious

    michael777 Member

    Do you have a specific question?
     
  6. stainless

    stainless New Member


    No, they don't want to read the whole thing like I just did..so they want a summary...but don't worry I will give it to them:):


    Basically, Mahmoud Abbas is the beast of revelation 13. Mountains means nations, and the six day war in 1967 is what Revelation prohpeciezed.

    Somehow the date 6/16/06 translates into 666, but he fails to give reasoning how that is.

    The rest of the OP didn't make much sense and failed miserably.


    stainless
     
  7. michael777
    Mischievious

    michael777 Member

    This is a copy of the letter referenced in my first post.
    I can post it if it helps. It was written on June 29, 2006.

    Why Mahmoud Abbas is the Beast of Revelation 13.

    The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed. If the wrong people are associated with the prophecies of Revelation 13 its answer can never be found. The people being referred to in Revelation 13 are the Palestinians. Once this is decided three questions have to be answered; why, how and who.

    Why do the Palestinian people lack the ability to buy and sell? Due to the Hamas takeover of the Palestinian Government, Western Aid was discontinued.

    How will the Palestinian people receive funds in order to buy and sell? Through a program called the Temporary International Mechanism that bypasses the Hamas controlled Palestinian Authority. This program was established on Friday June 16, 2006. This date 6/16/06 represents the day that one man was allowed to administer a program that paid the salaries of his people.

    Who will provide these salaries to the Palestinians? Western Aid was resumed through the office of Mahmoud Abbas due to the Temporary International Mechanism.

    Also, what group will be prevented from getting money because they did not receive the mark? Hamas.

    The mark of Mahmoud Abbas was issued in the Palestinian Presidential Election of January 2005. To prevent double voting an indelible ink mark was applied to the right hand of all voters. Since Hamas boycotted these elections their members never received the mark. Revelation 13:16 states that he caused all, small and great, rich and poor, and free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads. Simply by being a candidate, Mahmoud Abbas caused his people to receive the mark. Anyone who voted, either for him, or against him, were there because of him.

    Hamas will not honor the Image of Mahmoud Abbas, therefore all salaries are being given to Fatah, the party of Mahmoud Abbas. The Image is what the Palestinian Authority under Mahmoud Abbas represents. This Image of Abbas is required by the international community to continue peace talks with Israel. This Image is three items. These are the renunciation of terror, the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements, and the recognition of Israel, which can also be expressed as the acceptance of the two-state solution based on the 1967 borders. If these ideas are not followed or honored those individuals will be killed. This is happening to Hamas daily.

    So here is the sum of the matter. Mahmoud Abbas, in his name, was allowed to pay his people through a program created on a date that ended in three sixes. He was elected to his people by popular vote and caused his people to take a mark. This mark was given to everyone, even those in Israeli jails, who voted. Christians were always taught these basic principles, except I have linked the number 666 with his name, while prior teaching had the mark as 666 engraved.

    Lastly, why is it important that these facts be stated? The reason is fulfilled prophecy written centuries ago can only mean one thing. The author of that prophecy has to be God. Also, it distinguishes between a true and a false religion. These are the two most important issues in this writing. May your faith be stronger. The blessings of God to all who understand.
    Ephraim
     
  8. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    do a simple search for:

    Why Mahmoud Abbas is the Beast of Revelation 13

    This guy is all over the place hitting forums with this stuff :) We are just the latest forum to have Mr. Ephraim grace our presence with his cut and paste wisdom.
     
  9. invictus

    invictus New Member

    I prefer gods whose command of language is sufficient for them to inspire accurate and explicit prophesies.
     
  10. Isa

    Isa Yasu

    Michael in hebrew translation of meaning of name is "Who is like the Lord:" which was the war cry of the angels when they followed michael the lords commander in chief into battle to cast Satan into hell henceforth the fallen angel with duel meaning.

    777=7 Seals 7 Trumpets 7 Vials The Book of Revelation in God's words are unfolding as we speak.
    Six Seals are opened already! When the 7th is opened, the Trumpets will start blowing one by one, and Woe to all who do not know the Lord before the 7 Vials are poured out upon mankind.


    Now I have revealed who Michael777 is or the message behind the messager.
     
  11. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 New Member

    I disagree. I've heard that 666 refers to man. That whenever the Bible uses the number 6, it is refering to man. 7, being considered a holy number, while 6 being the lesser number. But becareful with trying to interpret Revelation, as the warning at the end is something to always keep in mind. I can not say for sure, but I have heard that the beast was actually Nero, somehow they figured a connection, and it made sense. But, I do believe the events recorded in Revelation have happened, and are done with. JMO. :)

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  12. michael777
    Mischievious

    michael777 Member

    If two people are in a race and one takes a shortcut to the finish, does he win the race?
    Is my voice heard above the rest because I scream the loudest?
    michael777
     
  13. michael777
    Mischievious

    michael777 Member

    When I first saw this post I was at a loss for words.
    It is a very bold statement Isa. In all the years that
    I have been posting in the forums, I have never
    encountered such a strong soul. God Bless You.
    Michael777
     
  14. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Well I heard five is man, 12 is woman, four is some dog owned by Moses and seven is the most evil number of them all. However 69 is divine.
     
  15. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 New Member

    Where'd you hear that??

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  16. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 New Member

    It was, back then for the 1st century Christians, who the Revelation letter was to. They knew what John was talking about, as this type of writing (apoctalyptic), was popular back in those times.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  17. stainless

    stainless New Member

    Any evidence showing that this is true? Are you telling me they were able to understand literature in it's fullness, yet we can't and we are supposedly the more intellegent ones?


    stainless
     
  18. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Well there are still some ancient writtings that we dont understand now but at the time the writters understood them LOL
    We dont fully understand The Etruscan language for example and with those we do understand quite often the meaning of a word or the context it is used in differs today from then. The same of course can be said about Cuniform and its many dirivatives :) So yes it is quite possible that we do not fully understand what they wrote.
     

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