Why Fox has Highest Ratings and MSNBC does not?

True, but you have to consume gallons of Right wing Kool Aid before you can effectively blur reality.

P.S. Write your own stuff!

 

Now that hardly constitutes been called a racist every time one opposes the President does it midas?
So a colloumist has made a comment!!
Whats wrong with opposing the Klan and other such organisations? The rise of the extreem right wing in America is fairly well recorded and even today is still quite prevelent.
So Ex President Carter said something that many people actualy think, I have never known so much annimosity and in some cases open hatred to be directed at a US President by Americans, and please dont tell me it has nothing to do with his colour because I will laugh at you. A great many Americans who wont openly admit it are scared silly by the thought of a Black person in the white house, just look at the campaign to tryy and discredit him before the election and it wasnt just Republicans.
As for Dowds comments utter stupidity, the man called him a liar and I doubt if race came into that.
Let me ask you this during the last administration just how many times did Rebuplicans and there supportes call out saying "you cant love America", "You Hate the troops" etc etc if you dont support the President? Now please be honest here yet now you have a Democratic President it dont count!! That is blatent hypocrasy

 

Are you freaking kidding me.
Indoctrination by liberal professors and teachers have been exploting our kids for a while now. Students are subjected to a prescribed set of beliefs and attitudes that are characterized as necessary for good citizenship…among these beliefs are that all whites are inherently racist; that America is a oppressive society and helping dismantle these structures of oppression is a personal duty. ….etc,etc…

High school and college students often must violate their own political or religious beliefs to pass a class by a liberal teacher.

Are you a college teacher?....


“Education is the motor-force of revolution”- communist, bomber Bill Ayers

 

You obviously do not have the benefit of a good education because you probably decided a long time ago that you already knew everything. I do work for a major university but I do not teach. I could teach but I choose not put up with know-it-alls and spoiled brats. It is quite easy to see that you've taken your opinions of higher education from sources with conservative agendas and that you have no actual experience with any of the institutions you are maligning. I think that if you actually set foot in an institution of higher learning from a community college to a major university, you would find that most of the comments and opinions you just expressed are hogwash. Brain washing and indoctrinating people is the job of the military not the education sector. I know this because I work with a lot of ex-military students and they are surprised at how open and welcoming all opinions and points of view are in the classroom, something that they didn’t experience in the military.

 

There you go assuming about me which you have no idea.

Sorry but you are wrong again. I have done the leg work on this one. I have a 19 year old daughter who is a college freshmen in a good Nursing program. Being in the Bible belt the indoctrination tactics are not as intrusive as they are in say.....U. of Delaware or Missouri State U....but the (required) sociology class, she and other students were subjected to several leftist ideologies. Having the ammunition and forewarning, she was able to see through the teachers hidden agenda and not compromise her values.

The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things.......not to roll condoms on bananas.

 

The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things!! What utter rubbish it's purpose is to keep you and your way of life safe, how dare you brand Soldiers/Sailors & Airmen as mindless killers and wreckers.
It is a barrier against those who might wish to kill you, it only kills when orderd to do so by the Goverment of the day.
I will agree that some (And I stress some) collage lecturers can have a left wing leaning but by the same token you will find Right wingers as well so please do not judge all teachers by one set of rules

 

So your entire experience with higher education comes down to sending your kid off for 1 whole year to some small college where her life-long preconceptions (provided by YOU) were challenged in a sociology class? Then my assumptions about you couldn’t have been more spot on. Hopefully, your daughter will rise above the ignorance she was exposed to in the home environment.

Now that you know what I do for a living, can I ask you what exactly do you shovel for a living?

 

"Mindless" is your word not mine. Only trying to get the point across that they are not there to conform to "opinions and points" that Moe was alluding to.

I've never really heard of any "right wing leaning" examples, but I'm sure the are there.....but for ever one example that you might find, there is probably 30 of "left wing leaning" examples. Teaching the constitution is not considered a "right wing" example.

 

Sorry but you are wrong again. I never mentioned my college "experience". Believe me I've had my fill of "university elitist" like you, in school and out. You assumed....(the first 3 letters in "assume" sums you up). My daughter has a mind of her own, and when the likes of you start getting into her pocket of what she has worked and studied hard, she may vote to cut your gravytrain state or federal sponsored job out.

As of 2004 I own my own business. So the only shoveling I'm doing is to the IRS.

 

Could you do me a little favor? Please convert the following sentence fragment into English for me; "....and when the likes of you start getting into her pocket of what she has worked and studied hard, she may vote to cut your gravytrain state or federal sponsored job out." I normally wouldn't ask but since you wrote it, I figured that you might have some insight into what the heck you are talking about.

 

I've been watching this "discussion" for a bit and it's good you know that your daughter has a "mind of her own" jth.
I'm sure you're proud of your daughter as you should be. She is pursuing a goal it seems.

I may be ASSUMING here but so be it and underline the first three letters if you must but don't forget the last three in the word ASSUME. Fair enough?

I went to college. It was an eye opening experience. EVERY individual takes it differently. I didn't see it as being exposed to elitists or communists. I saw it as a look at different viewpoints that I was NOT ALLOWED to study in any high school curriculum. Why? because in high school it just plain wasn't there. This was in the early 1980s and things have changed with the explosion of the internet have they not?

Now students have so much more exposure. They have computers and oft times are urged to form their own opinons. This is bad somehow?

They are introduced to things they would not hear at home nor in high school. Again this is bad somehow?

One of my favorite classes was actually U.S. History from 1900 on. Somehow I had skipped over a history requirement. The prof was also the dean at the time.
I was a senior surrounded by freshman basically.

He assigned A LOT of reading. I read it all. His intent? Present the same information from several points of view.

Would that make him a liberal? I was free to interpret on my own then explain why. He gave essay tests with a bonus question. He often tossed my scores out as he graded on a curve.
Was it because I'm a genius? Nope, I did the reading and he could tell. Didn't mean he agreed with me he was making it a bit more fair to those that didn't quite grasp it or do the reading.

He gave no opinions in lectures. What he did do was present different ideas and make you THINK.

How can that be construed as a bad thing?
I suppose it could to those that are so locked in their ways they have the opinion that others don't have the right to think.

 

That is a very common saying in the military (US). Obviously it is said knowing there is more to the complexity of the military than that. But, in its simplest form, the military is trained to break things and kill people.

Even though my every day job entailed the exact opposite...I work in a hospital and fix things...I was told and trained many times by those of much greater rank than myself that my purpose was still to be able to break things and kill people if the need arose.

 

Of corse they are trained to do so Stu, no one would deny that As a ex soldier myself I know it but it is not the prime reason for being, that as I have said before is the defence of the nation

 

For those of us who have walked the halls of academia you really cannot deny the liberal slant prevelant at most schools....I had left leaning instructors in Spanish, Geology and Math classes in the mid- late 80's- and those are the the not-so-subtle, overt one's I can remember. It did seem to lighten up in the upper classes though.
I do feel that folks who spent most of their lives in/around school live in a vacuum and BO is a perfect example. As in anything one chooses to do, there is a way you think something should be done and the way things are really done. "Overeducated-types" (and this is purely a personal observation) tend to be more unprepared when reality hits.

 

I appreciate your sentiments an d candor. I also attended college…late 70’s early 80’s so I can relate.

I was very much exposed to aspects of the world, that I did not get in high school. One class we focused on the evil of terrorism, because of the not so distant attacks of the ’72 Olympics. Being a large university I met several middle-eastern students and was intrigued by their different viewpoints on the conflicts happening in Iran at the time as I witnesses several demonstrations. Very eye-opening indeed.

Being introduced to things not heard at home or high school, and at this age it’s all about processing the info and different ideas and coming to your own logical conclusions which will serve you on down the path of life. Is this bad somehow? No.

I think ever institution of “higher learning” has that required class(’s) that exposes you to the “elitists or communists” and its up to the individual to weight these ideas against there own core beliefs… and I think it is much more present and in your face today than it was when we attended.

I also liked history even though I enjoyed from 1750’s on….and here’s where I have the problem.

History is history. Period. The “same information from several points of view”…is like I’m going to rewrite history to match my point of view to what I think happened. No.no ..….. it either happened one way or it didn’t. True history cannot be fairly judged until a generation later when all factors have played out. A big problem we have today is teachers teaching history to their points of view and not by what really happened. A bigger problem we have today is teachers not teaching history at all because they don’t approve or agree with what happened.

I think his intent was good to let you read the material and learn what you read. “Presenting the same information from several points of view” in teaching history make him a liberal? Probably. Giving no opinions in lectures a bad thing? No. Priceless.lol.

Keeping a open mind and hearing all sides is a virtue…but forming opinions and reaching conclusions goes back to my core values which is listening to the people I trust and trusting what I have learnt.

 

Now that is something I can whole heartedly agree with you on the teaching of history in schools today, it has been seriously dumbed down