Gays and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation

“Letter from UN’s Islamic group to UNHRC President Opposing Panel on Violence Against Gays”
http://blog.unwatch.org/index.php/2...dent-opposing-panel-on-violence-against-gays/
Speaking before the walkout for the 57-nation Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), Pakistan described homosexuality as “licentious behavior” while African group leader Senegal said it was not covered by global human rights accords.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/03/07/islamic-states-walk-out-of-u-n-meeting-on-violence-against-gays/

It is happening everyday of every month of every year about the horrors that mohammad had brought to this world but the tread was about something else. So I didn't post anything regarding that topic to now since you take it as a joke. But caring about others is not paronia in my book. Sorry you do not feel the outrage any decent person would.

 

I've never said that I liked them. In a post not long ago I said that I despised them in the same way that I despise Christians such as those who are fostering the beatings and murders of gays in sub-Saharan Africa and the Caribbean. You seem to have no problem criticizing Muslims for attitudes and behaviour which are shared by millions of your fellow Xstains.

 

Sorry to disappoint you but the nearest thing to religion that I have is my famiily and my values. Feel God more sharing a sunset with my family at the beach then in any house of worship with a book. But then again, I was typecast years ago at this site and its parent site for I recognize that evolution is a theory and that Isalm is a danger to free thought and basic human rights.

 

ALL religions are a danger to free thought and basic human rights and you only have to look at any of their histories and current practices to see exactly what I am talking about. I don't like or dislike any one religion over another. They are all about the same thing to me and it ain't good even though many of their followers can be absolutely fine except for their devotion to their crazy various belief systems of course.

 

OK started a new thread for you all to play in

 

The Quakers are cool. Never met anyone who came out of the Friends School who wasn't the nicest of people.

The Koran is more like the ancient text The Art of War,

Bombs in southern Thailand kill 11, wound 110


Published March 31, 2012
HAT YAI, Thailand-- Suspected Muslim insurgents staged the most deadly attack in years in Thailand's restive south, killing 11 people and wounding 110 with car bombs that targeted Saturday shoppers just before lunchtime.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/03/31/bombs-in-southern-thailand-kill-11-wound-110/#ixzz1qqDJYTgM​

 

Hey, at least it's easy to find that kind of info now Andy. Back when Reagan invaded countries like Guatamala and Panama, the average American citizen didn't know what was going on.

If anything, we have so much info now that it's nearly impossible to stay focused on one subject.

Oooo look, someone left a penny on the ground!

Please De Orc, no new thread for that lol

What? I'll have to say something relevant to the topic then? (looks at topic) Hmmm, gays and the OIC... I don't have any horses in the race but I guess I could comment that most muslims, and a lot of people in general, are extremely sensitive to any behavior different than what they've been taught is the correct behavior.

I'd say that intollerance of homosexuality is up there for a lot of people, muslim or not, but that muslims do seem to take it to extremes, the average muslim seems more willing to kill for what we'd consider minor offenses here in the States, more often than other groups.

Did I mention that the penny is pre-'82? Almost pure copper! It's gotta be worth like ....two cents or something.

 

How about hearing from a point view from an actual Muslim?
- The gay issue is clear in Islam, if you feel that you were born in the wrong body get a sex change operation and live normally, you can even get married. [Full Stop].
now reaction to Gays varies, most people would not really care as long as you keep quite, it is your life, if however you decide to broadcast to the world that you are Gay that would be a different story as you will get some unwanted attention, by the way how many gay people where killed in the Islamic world in the past 10 years because they where Gay?, how about in the non - Islamic world?

- "the average muslim seems more willing to kill for what we'd consider minor offenses here in the States, more often than other groups."

Interesting statement, do you have any statistics in how many people are killed in all Islamic countries?, take that and compare it to how many people where killed in USA, in Islam killing a person is like killing all people, so only a tiny minority would be willing to kill and it would be for the wrong religious ideologies, not for robbing a store or in a road rage incident etc etc.

 

I'd like to hear that also, but I do want to make it clear that I know there is a wide range of groups of muslims, each with their own particular behavior, just as that is true for all popular religions... to one extent or another. The specific group of muslims I was referring to believe in a more rigid interpretation of the koran, where homosexuality is forbidden. Other more flexible groups may indeed accept homosexuality under certain conditions, while others still accept it without pause.

I could have made that clearer earlier, but most people who have read my previous comments over the last year should be able to understand that I tend to talk about the worst aspects of muslim beliefs more than the good aspects... but that I also make attempts to differentiate between the two when necessary... like now lol

For the record: Most muslims are ordinary people living ordinary lives and I have no issues against living near them, working with them, or having kids with them. My issues are with the radicals, the segment that is uncompromising in it's beliefs that non-muslims are not worthy of life. The segment that believes that once you are a muslim you may never renounce your faith, under penalty of death (see Afghan law). The segment that treats women like capital.

It's a matter of opinion, but to me those are practices, or beliefs, that I can't agree with. There are also segments of muslims that agree with me. When I can sit down with someone, and not be under the legitimate fear that if I should offend them I might be killed, then I have no real issue with that person. I'm mostly reasonable about that lol

Maybe now that it is possible, and with certain segments of the muslim population, but sex-changes are only recently possible.

For the record: I'm not trying to say this is limited to muslims only, but the worst possible outcome by the vast majority of christians or other religions is not death. I believe the more extreme segments of muslim believers have no qualms about killing others they deem not worthy of living anymore, and that their numbers, as a percentage of believers, are far higher than in other religions.

My comment is based on the idea that it is either known or suspected that a person is homosexual... but more from a "known" perspective... and again, is meant to refer to the more extreme segment of the religion... and not the majority. Sorry for not making that clearer.

As for those who keep their homosexuality secret, by it's very nature I couldn't say how many there are, since it's unknowable.

I don't know. I couldn't say an exact number in any society, but it's highly likely that someone made educated guesses and posted them online. I'd call that kind of info educated speculation though, since the actual figures are unknowable.

That's your belief? Mine is that not all muslims would say that is true. Various segments of the belief will certainly believe in it, but the belief isn't uniform throughout the World. But yes, I could have worded my comment better, since it sound as if I'm referring to muslims in America. What I meant was the more radical muslim societies, as in Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.... and should have made it more clear on that. Not to say America doesn't have it's murderers, but I'd say murders here have much less to do with religious beliefs than in those more aggressive muslim societies above.

 

Great. The Quakers are cool. That's the best you can do? Hold up one minor Christian denomination and say that it consists of nice people? Meanwhile, in sub-Saharan Africa and in much of the Caribbean gays are discriminated against, outlawed, banned, beaten and killed based on the teachings of the blood-soaked Christian holy book. And look at the views of Christian Dominionists and their more mainstream Christian enablers right here in Christian America. You can't condemn Muslims while giving their Christian siblings a pass.