Who's The World's Most Important Modern Politician?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by B12, May 1, 2006.

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Who's the World's Most Important Politician of the Mordern Era?

  1. LENIN

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. TRUMAN

    4 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. REAGAN

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  4. CHURCHILL

    7 vote(s)
    21.9%
  5. JFK

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. HITLER

    1 vote(s)
    3.1%
  7. HO CHI MINH

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. MAHATMA GANDHI

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  9. STALIN

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. OTHER(PLEASE ELABORATE)

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  1. B12

    B12 New Member

    I'd say Reagan.The "modern era" in this case meaning the era started in 1789 and lasting until today. If you have someone not listed in mind,let us know.Please indicate why you think this figure is so important.

    Thanks B12
     
  2. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Разом нас багато


    Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, there is no other leader in this list that comes even close. If more followed his leadership, the world would be a much nicer place.
     
  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    Winston Curchill, because he was a modern Druid!

    ;)
    B

    Seriously, because of his leadership during WWII. He was the man who slammed the gate on Hitler.
     
  4. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    Lenin can't be considered a man of the current era. Current era would probably have to be post-WWII. G.W. Bush has to be at the head of that list.
     
  5. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    Gandhi had really very little impact on the world beyond India. Certainly, Adolph Hitler clearly had a greater impact on the world than Gandhi. Political impacts are usually negative. Great builders and statesmen don't get much credit for anything. Gandhi merely applied western principles of democracy and well-established religious morality.
     
  6. Danr

    Danr New Member


    Philosophically he did
     
  7. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Mao??
     
  8. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Bono Besides U2 rocks.
     
  9. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    I said Truman due to the Marshall Plan for one. Europe would have and still might have been a disaster without it.
    I said Truman for he stopped China and this kept China in check, not counting Tibet, until recently.

    I said Truman for he made the hard decisions,dropping the bomb-calling in McArthur, Intergrating the United States Military, etc.. and cared less about what anyone had to say and more for what needed to be done.

    I said Truman for he was in charge of keeping the military war machine honest before he was Vice-President and actually had a general or two arrested. He was very much responsible for the quick build up of the US military during those early war years which led to defeating the AXIS nations.
    There are other reasons as well but that would take a book.
    You know he served in World War I as well. Artillary I believe.

    Ronnie would have been my second pick.

    Carter might be a first pick but for the wrong reasons. Depends if the World becomes Fundamental Islamic in another 100 years.
     
  10. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Osama Bin Laden, tho he's still learning how to be a politician.
     
  11. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Разом нас багато


    QD, Oh yes he did, Martin Luther King of the USA and Lech Walesa of Poland will disagree with you.
     
  12. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Разом нас багато


    Truman was very contemporaneously unpopular for dropping MacArthur like he did. Mac came home to a heroes welcome and parades. He might well have been elected President had he been ditched by Truman a bit earlier than when Ike stole the spotlight in the political ring. In all of the many great things Truman performed, ie Berlin Airlift etc, the firing of MacArthur is a stain.
     
  13. Danr

    Danr New Member

    MacAuthur? the guy who killed the bonus marchers?
     
  14. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Shut up, Danr. Don't try to sully the name of one of the greatest men of the 20th century. In fact, I can't think of any better man, the rest were all jerks, including your bleep of a general Marshall, who sold out to FDR's commie friends.

    Edit: p.s. You are stupid. So you will understand this I am also writing it one letter at a time:
    Y, o, u, a, r, e, s, t, u, p, i, d. I would put you on my ignore list but I like keeping my blood boiling by reading the constant lies you post in this section.
     
  15. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Craig cool it with the personal insult stuff. The powers that be here are not cool with that. If you want to dispute my claim that MacArthur was wrong in his dealings with the bonus marchers then I would love to hear it.
     
  16. craigG

    craigG New Member

    OK. Congress were the ones responsible for that mess, MacArthur was just doing his job.
    The Nuremburg thing may have said that following orders is no excuse, but what was he supposed to do?

    If he'd been court-martialed for that, we'd have lost a great soldier and WWII and Korea would probably have gone a lot differently.
    Also, the Veterans were going about it the wrong way. Protesting is not the way to voice your grievances. Look where it got them. There are other ways... that do not need to be gone into here.

    Personal insult stuff. Well, sorry, but I get sick and tired of the way you constantly attack Bush and post these links to 9/11 videos.

    Sure, he's a jerk and a liar, but blowing up the WTC's? Come on! :rolleyes:

    Plus, when are you gonna realize that these Islamofascists(as Bill O. calls them), do not give a lick about you and would as soon nuke the whole world as shake your hand?

    CraigG
     
  17. Krasnaya Vityaz

    Krasnaya Vityaz Разом нас багато

    MacArthur was following a unpopular order from his commander in chief and the government of the USA. It was not so much about the bonus marchers not getting their money as it was that there were suspicions that many of them were in fact Socialists advocating an overthrow of the USA government, with help from the American Communist Party. In fact some of them were Socialists, but many others were not, they just wanted their money.

    It was a lot like today when there are people protesting against the WTO, they run the gamut from legitimate individuals with a bonafide concern to whacked out marijuana snorting anarchists with a chance at random violence and destruction.

    Think what you will about MacArthur getting fired by Truman, Truman did many good things for the USA and western Europe during the course of his presidency. But firing Mac may have changed the course of the Korean War. BTW, in case you didn't know it, the Korean War is NOT finished. The shooting has mostly stopped, I said mostly. Do not forget MacArthurs stunning Inchon invasion from the East China Sea, a daring and very risky plan that actually worked. If it had not been for MacArthurs leadership during that conflict, all of the Korean peninsula would be bowing to Kim Jong Il and singing praises to the "Dear Leader" instead of just half of Korea.
     
  18. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    I think the communists were also involved in the recent May Day Mexican protests in the USA. I believe the big events were sponsored by the American Workers Party. This is nothing new. They same folks were behind Caesar Chavez many years ago. That is what all the red flags are about. The Mexicans and American leftists don't like to talk about the close connection between the communists and the Mexican invasion strategy.
     
  19. Danr

    Danr New Member

    By communist what do you mean, a sort of organized communist party, or just people who want social justice. Be careful throwing those commie accusation around that has caused trouble in the past. Personally I do resent people who have a trust fund and do not work but I am not a communist.
     
  20. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Ian Paisley of Ulster.

    Ian Paisley of Ulster is one of the most influential politicians of the modern era.True,he has his critics,but I admire him not only for his defence of the British monarchy & the Protestant religion,but because he also calls a spade a spade,as the old saying goes.It is a pity that he hasn't been awarded his well-earned hereditary peerage though!

    Aidan.
     

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