Are you ready for a military State? We warned you. Yes we did.

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  1. JoeNation
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    Trump Calls Protesters ‘Terrorists’ and Urges Governors to Seek ‘Retribution’
    In a Rose Garden speech shaded with anger, President Trump threatened to send the American military to states where governors could not bring the protests over police brutality under control.

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    Audio: Trump Calls Protesters ‘Terrorists’ in Talk With Governors
    The New York Times obtained audio of a private conference call President Trump had with governors, in which he tells them to crack down on protesters.
    You’ve got to arrest these people. You’ve got to arrest these people, and you’ve got to charge them. And you can’t do the deal where they get one week in jail. These are terrorists. These are terrorists. They’re looking to do bad things to our country. It shouldn’t be hard to take care of, and we’re going to take care of this. [unclear] We’ve got a number of people here that you’ll be seeing a lot of. General Milley is here, he’s head of Joint Chiefs of Staff, a fighter, a warrior, has a lot of victories and no losses. And he hates to see the way it’s being handled in the various states, and I’ve just put him in charge. The attorney general is here, right here, Bill Barr. And so we will activate Bill Barr, and activate him very strongly. And we’re strongly — the secretary of defense is here — we’re strongly looking for arrests. We do have to get much tougher. We’re going to get over it. I know Gov. Walz is on the phone and we spoke. And I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days. I asked him to do that. Get a lot of men. We have all the men and women that you need. The people aren’t calling them up. You have to dominate. If you don’t dominate, you’re wasting your time. They’re going to run over you. You’re going to look like a bunch of jerks. You have to dominate. And you have to arrest people, and you have to try people. And they have to go to jail for long periods of time. I saw what happened in Philadelphia. I saw what happened in Dallas where they kicked a guy to death. I don’t if he died or not, but if he didn’t it’s a miracle. What they did to him, they were kicking him like I’ve never seen anything like it in my life. People don’t talk about that. They don’t talk about that. They’re talking about a lot of other things, but they don’t talk about that. But I saw what happened in Dallas, and those kids are all scum, they’re wise guys. And it’s coming from the radical left. You know it. Everybody knows it, but it’s also looters, and it’s people that figure they can get free stuff by running into stores and running out with television sets. I saw it. The kid has a lot of stuff. He puts it in the back of a brand new car and drives off. You have every one of these guys on tape. Why aren’t you prosecuting them? Now the harder you are, the tougher you are, the less likely it is that you’re going to be hit. This is a movement. We found out they’re delivering supplies to various places and various states. Your people know about it now. But we found out many things. It’s like a movement, and it’s a movement that if you don’t put it down, it will get worse and worse. This is like Occupy Wall Street. It was a disaster until one day somebody said, “That’s enough.” And they just went in and wiped them out. That’s the last time I heard the name Occupy Wall Street until today, when I heard about it. I heard Occupy Wall Street. I haven’t heard about it. I heard about it today for the first time in a long time. They were there for forever, it seemed, on Wall Street. They closed up Wall Street, the financial district of the world, and they had total domination. They were ordering pizzas. Nobody did anything. And then one day, somebody said, “That’s enough.” You’re getting out of here within two hours. And it was bedlam for an hour, and then after that, everything was beautiful. And that was the last time we heard about it. But these are the same people. These are radicals, and they’re anarchists. They are anarchists. Whether you like it or not. I know some of you guys are different persuasion, and that’s OK — I fully understand that. I understand both. I’m for everybody. I’m representing everybody. I’m not representing radical right, radical left. I’m representing everybody. But you have to know what you’re dealing with. This happened before. This happened numerous times, and the only time it’s successful is when you’re weak. And most of you are weak. And I will say this. What’s gone on in Los Angeles, I have a friend who lives in Los Angeles. They say all the store fronts are gone. They’re all broken and gone. The merchandise is gone. It’s a shame. It just didn’t look as bad as that to me. Maybe it was the sunshine. I don’t know. But in Los Angeles, the store fronts are gone. Philadelphia is a mess. Philadelphia, what happened there is horrible, and that was on television. They’re breaking into stores, and nobody showed up to even stop them — there was no — nobody showed up to stop them. Well, Washington, they had large groups, very large groups. They attacked the A.F.L.-C.I.O. building, so they attacked, in theory, they’re friends, which is very interesting. But Washington was under very good control, but we’re going to have it under much more control. We’re going to pour in thousands of people. And we were under guard of the D.C. police, the mayor, the mayor of Washington D.C. And Secret Service did a very good job around the White House, but there’s all different precautions around the White House. But — and we’re going to clamp down very, very strong. But you’ve got to arrest people. You have to try people. You have to put them in jail for 10 years. Then you’ll never see this stuff again. And you have to let them know that. They’re trying to get people out on bail in Minneapolis. I understand they’re in there trying to get all these guys out on bail. So you have them on tape, you have them on television. In history, there’s never been anybody taped so much committing a crime. You have these guys throwing rocks. And you could could see their face. They showed, they showed it last night on one of the stations of one of the networks, throwing a big brick. And they had them in slow-motion replay. They put them on just like a fielder catching a ball, and throwing a ball. They have the slow-motion replay. You see exactly who he is. Everybody knows. You’ll find out exactly. You have — everybody is on tape. You better arrest all those people, and you’ve got to try them. And if they get five years to 10 years — they have to get five years or 10 years. There’s no retribution. So I say that, and the word is dominate. If you don’t dominate your city and your state, they’re going to walk away with you. And wait till I get in Washington and D.C., we’re gonna do something that people haven’t seen before. But you’ve got to have total domination. And then you have to put them in jail, and you have to authorize, whatever it is, whoever it is, you authorize. And with that, I’ll let Bill Barr say a few words, then I’m going to have General Milley speak. Let’s go, Bill.

    WASHINGTON — President Trump on Monday angrily denounced the demonstrators who have used violence to call attention to the deaths of black men killed by the police as “organizers” of terrorism, and threatened to send the American military to states where governors could not bring the protests under control.

    “If a city or a state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents,” Mr. Trump said in brief remarks in the Rose Garden, “then I will deploy the United States military and quickly solve the problem for them.”

    Vowing to bring “law and order” to protests across the country that have sometimes led to looting and arson, the president reserved some of his harshest language for protesters in Washington, where demonstrations on Friday night forced his evacuation to a protected White House bunker. They continued with a growing intensity on Saturday night, and again on Sunday night, when St. John’s Church, the so-called Church of the Presidents, briefly caught fire nearby.

    “What happened in this city last night was a total disgrace,” Mr. Trump said. “As we speak, I am dispatching thousands and thousands of heavily armed soldiers, military personnel and law enforcement officers to stop the rioting, looting, vandalism, assaults and the wanton destruction of property.”

    The New York Times obtained audio of a private conference call President Trump had with governors, in which he tells them to crack down on protesters.
     
  2. JoeNation
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    Heil Twitler

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  3. JoeNation
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    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Well, crickets from the GOP. Crickets from their constituents. It's almost like they are just fine with Fascism come to America or something.

    When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

    Check and check....

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  4. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN Active Member

    I will refer you back to our previous conversation on common sense and reality. Take off your tinfoil hat, climb out of your bunker and come join us in the real world for a while. You seriously sound like an off his rocker prepper.
     
  5. JoeNation
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    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Hitler's true believers never listened to the warnings before he rose to power and they still believed in him after he had destroyed Europe and died alone in a bunker.

    I don't expect anything different from the Trump true believers.

    Even calling for the military to police U.S. citizens isn't enough to convince the true believers of the current Fascist regime. What could I ever say to make them stop and think that a steady march towards Fascism is a bad idea? He is their Führer after all. His word is all they listen to.
     
  6. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN Active Member

    There's one piece of your own advice that you really should heed. Your postings sometimes appear to be that of a lunatic.
     
  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Then you obviously agree with the orange shit-stain when he puts the Joint Chief of Staff being put "in charge" of the states. I am unsurprised as I keep saying. Your ilk has always seemed like lovers of Fascism to me. You also agree with Trump teargassing peaceful protesters so he can get a photo-Op.

    His only phone call with international leaders was to Putin. Maybe Putin can let Trump know how his political adversaries can conveniently fall out of windows.
     
  8. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN Active Member

    Meanwhile, back in the real world......
     
  9. JoeNation
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    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Your ability to deny reality has put you in some world anyway.
     
  10. SmalltownMN
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    SmalltownMN Active Member

    Best look in the mirror, Joe. Let us know when you're ready to have a normal conversation. A normal conversation would be one that didn't include trying to compare ANYONE in today's world to Hitler.
     
  11. JoeNation
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    True believer much?
     
  12. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN Active Member

    Joe, I picture you in a room with flowers on the wall.......

    Playin' solitaire till dawn with a deck of fifty-one
    Smokin' cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kangaroo
     
  13. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    You know.... I remember when Bill Clinton was caught with his cigar in a place that it wasn't supposed to be.... Personally, I couldn't give a hoot about his oval office trysts. But I also remember the Rev. Jesse Jackson publicly forgiving the man. And I also remember Sunday after Sunday seeing the President arm in arm with his doting (not) wife walking to church always insuring the photographers could plainly see the bible in his hand.... My baby girl can't do drama that well..... The president marched to that cathedral to make sure the thugs out on the streets could see who was in charge. So let's get real here. Somebody has to take control of this mess.
     
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  14. JoeNation
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    The military?
     
  15. SmalltownMN
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    SmalltownMN Active Member

    State and city leaders are under the microscope now, as well they should be. Personally, I feel the Mayor of Minneapolis should start looking for a different job. The Governor of Minnesota shouldn't be too far behind him either. In my opinion, the talk the governors had given to them was justified. Time for all of them to put their "big boy pants" on and get to work or get the hell out of the way. The utter hypocrisy shown by the Mayor of Minneapolis was just stomach turning. Covid-19 and these protests have shown a lot of true colors and agendas in many places.
     
  16. Mopar Dude

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    I don't like it. But given the lesser of two evils, I believe my family stands a batter chance with a soldier than with a looter. I am well versed in the honor built into the character of a solder. The mind of a looter is an unknown to me.
     
  17. JoeNation
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    Looters are nothing but common criminals. You're willing to see the American Military dispersed in American cities because some idiots stole some crap from retail stores? You all to easily trade your freedoms for some dumpy little retail establishment. I suppose if we really try, we can get the Air force to drone target J-Walkers and litter bugs. Do you not get the concept that once we militarize our streets, freedom is a State sanctioned ideal from that point on? Really? Not liking it is about to be the least of your concerns. The GOP has gone radio silent on Trump's actions yesterday. They are never going to reign in Trump. They might as well go down into the bunker with Trump. He may want to relieve himself at some point.
     
  18. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    I believe you are carrying this to the extreme. I will readily admit. When the Boston Marathon was bombed, I watched that city become a full police state overnight, I was disturbed. But Joe you are dancing around the problem here. That dumpy little retail establishment may be my office next. Then how long before it is mine and your homes? Lawlessness knows know bounds. Laws do have boundaries. I am real enough to recognize that if the military is deployed, it would be quite temporary and only in enough force to bring this rebellion down. This isn’t 1935 Germany and our soldiers are not storm troopers. I am not trading my freedoms. But I would welcome the protection of law abiding citizens and businesses.
     
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  19. CoinBlazer

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    Do remember folks, Posse Comitatus Act, declaring the deployment of US Armed Services on US soil illegal. Considering this to be illegal, say all hell breaks loose and Trump orders troops to be deployed to cities, the US Military has a sworn obligation to DISOBEY that order, considering that it violates the Law of the land. This world is fucked, and it’s not only Trumps fault, it’s much more.
     
  20. JoeNation
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    I believe that you would be more or less 100% accurate in your assertions if not for one HUGE problem.

    DONALD TRUMP.

    90% of Republicans support the most unqualified individual to ever sit at the Resolute desk. PERIOD!!!!!

    That says volumes about the opinions of his supporters. He is an abomination to not only this country but the world.

    We need U.N. human rights investigation and U.N. troops in this country for the first time ever. Lat that sink in.

    A Pandemic.
    Completely correct. We are fucked and it isn't Trump's fault. These issues have plagued our county since before it was a country. Trump merely throws a match on the powder keg. He is operating purely on base instincts right now. Very base. This will get worse from here on out.
     

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