I think not. Under no circumstances should we cooperate with a terrorist ever. That man needs to be killed in a slow painful manner, not negotiated with.
The question is: do you believe him? If we agreed, would we have any reason to believe that the terror activities would cease?
Either way he has us acting on emotion and that is a sure loser. The complete rejection of strategic retreat indicates that the fools running this thing have that particular type of determination found in Hitler in his last days. A sort of march into a Russian winter mentality.
I'm not arguing with you Danr, nor making a position statement. I am just asking the question as to what risk there would be to making a one sided action that would not have the desired result. Is there reason to believe that the violence would stop if the US was to pull out? Or is there reason to believe that the US would pull out and the training camps would re-open and the risk would increase of worldwide attacks? Opinions?
"Redeployment", "strategic retreat"?? Those are nice liberal code words for surrender!! You don't seem to understand that islamic terrorists have swore to their allah to convert the world to islam, tax and/or enslave infidels, or kill us to make islam the only religion for all. Bin Laden is just trying to buy time...or maybe he is tired of living in a hole with the rest of his dirty-night-shirt-rag-head terrorist buddies...or both. You never let your enemy get up...NEVER. If you see Bin Laden drowning in a ocean, never throw him a rope. You spray him with a fire hose so he could drown faster. "Strategic retreat" you say...you just demonstrated why liberals like you have no business defending and/or protecting these United States. No business whatsoever!! "Unconditional Surrender" was the course of action with Hitler, nothing less!! Anything less would have been a slap in the face to the men and woman that were killed during the war that fought to rid the world of this mad-man. Your suggestion would be nothing short of that. Go ahead to Walter Reed Hospital and make that suggestion. I would love to see what these heros would do with your yellow butt! When are you liberals going to inderstand that these islamic killers will NEVER change! When your whole life has been "bobbing and rocking" toward Mecca along with following the hundreds of passages in the Koran that specifically detail how infidels should be treated, do you really think these animals are going to stop and become peaceful?? Shame on you if you do. What you need to do is go back to your Green Party, hold hands, and sing songs. What a great strategy to deal with islamic terrorists.
Since the entire unstated purpose of US action in the Middle East is to capture oil fields, this is a non-starter. This has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives or hitler or Osama or Saddam or WMD or Israel or Islam or victory or retreat or democracy or terrorism or revenge. If you don't understand this or reject the idea, there is no chance that you will ever understand what is going on or why what happens is what has to happen. Everything else is secondary to the goal. Oil
I am reminding you that retreat comprises one half of a military leader's tools, and these fools have thrown this one half of their tools in the garbage. It is like a mechanic who throws all of his wrenches away. There are ways to approach this that would be beneficial to us.
Danr, you are such a coward. In this war there is no retreat, either victory or total annihilation. That's what the muslims know this war to be, and so do the smart ones over here. We're going to be the ones getting annihilated though, if you dopy liberals don't change your tune or get the hell out of America.
Retreat where? Off planet? I gotta go with this recipe; find him, stand him up against a wall, shoot repeatedly until dead. There is no retreat from terrorism. Although, I think Bin Laden has played his hand very well so far, he has made a major mistake. He has left a vastly more powerful enemy with no place to retreat. Our only option at this point is to find him and his network and kill them. His second mistake was believing that the Muslim world would stand up behind him and he could herald in world-wide chaos. That didn't happen because like all maniacs, he believed in his own rhetoric and in the end he could only recruit a handful of fellow lunatics that are slowly being picked off. Retreat would only encourage others to use the same tactics in the future. It would be nice if we were all at peace again but in reality that isn’t going to suddenly happen just because we want it to. Peace only happens when the parties involved get so sick of the war that they long for peace or one side is utterly crushed. We are no where near that point yet. Danr, I thought you were just baiting all those folks that incessantly talk about the glory, the honor, the service to your country, and all that emotional BS that has nothing to do with real issues that confront us in this complicated conflict. But you seriously believe that we should just withdraw from this fight altogether and hope the fanatics will come to their senses and leave us alone? There is a legal defense argument still on the books in Texas that roughly goes like this; The man needed killin’. We are so far past the point of no return that retreat isn’t in the battle plan anymore.
Wow Meon...I find myself agreeing with you. I just think there are alot more mulsim radicals willing to take up the fight than we will ever imagine. Jihad to them is serious business and their ticket into muslim paradise. Until they denounce all of those passages written down by their prophet Mohammad, they still will fight because that is all they know. Easy little boy...you are drinking too much of the liberal kool aid.
Sure, compare me to Hitler, even though he is the one who's forces finally did retreat. Anyway, this is about muslim fanatics, not neonazinutcases. Thank heaven there weren't many liberals around during world war II or we might have lost. And just where did you find this alleged quote of his?
Call a meeting between General Schwartzkov and Osama, during the meeting Schwartzkov can place a .45 cal slug in Osama's forehead. Then give the bounty to the General so he can go back to retirement in style.
Not a quote but Hitler is known for this failed strategy. He is a textbook exapmle of what not to do. I was not comparing you to Hitler in the sense that you like autrocities but in that you support a similar strategy. Like Hitler W has an odd sort of sense of destiny tied into his theology, it is really sick.