I Have my Popcorn and Can't Wait for Thursday

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Aug 4, 2015.

  1. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

    The clown car debates are about to hit the big screen. This is going to be funny. I wouldn't miss this for the world. With all the hilarious GOP glory on display, you also can't afford to miss this debate. This will demonstrate just how far the GOP has fallen.
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  2. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Donald Trump For President In 2020

    Ah, yes... the American political system at work. It's a beautiful thing, isn't it? BTW, when are the Democratic debates scheduled?
  3. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

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    More like Fox "News" at work. The GOP cable channel has made a mockery of the GOP primary process and good on them. It's a total cluster f**k anyway made for entertainment purposes only. With a TV reality show celebrity leading the pack, the entertainment value is guaranteed. Only in the GOP.
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  4. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

    2 days away and they still can't figure out who they'll include. What a total cluster... Oh you know.

    Here's Who'll (Probably) Be In The First GOP Presidential Debate

    Let's get ready to rumble, etc.
    Posted: 08/04/2015 11:31 AM EDT
    WASHINGTON -- Fox News has not yet announced who will grace the stage Thursday night in Cleveland for the first GOP presidential debate. But given the most recent polls, we have a pretty good idea of which candidates will make the cut.

    Fox has said it will average the most recent five polls from "major, nationally recognized organizations that use standard methodological techniques" to create a top 10 field of candidates who will participate in the coveted 9 p.m. primetime debate. Depending on which polls Fox takes into account, it's possible that the final list could include ties, resulting in more than 10 candidates onstage. Contenders who don’t make the main stage will be given an opportunity to debate each other at an earlier, 5 p.m. slot.

    Most notably, it’s looking like former Texas Gov. Rick Perry will be on the latter, so-called “kids' stage.” The three-term governor has failed to break out during his second run for the White House, although he led one of the reddest states in the country and has one of the best job creation records in the crowded field.

    In recent weeks, Perry has more or less staked his campaign on being the anti-Donald Trump. He has lambasted the real estate mogul more forcefully than any other candidate -- particularly on the issue of veterans, in the aftermath of Trump’s comments disparaging the war service record of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). As the only Republican presidential candidate with substantial military service, Perry would have been uniquely positioned to attack Trump on the matter this Thursday. He may end up doing so anyway, but chances are he won't be doing it to Trump's face.

    Perry’s slump could also have to do with to the presence of another successful executive, Ohio Gov. John Kasich. The Ohio governor, who supports Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion and is running on the mantle of “compassionate” conservatism, announced his intention to run for president just two weeks prior to the debate. His late entrance appeared perfectly timed to land him a spot on the main stage, pushing past Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and former governors like Perry and George Pataki of New York.

    As of Tuesday morning, the five polls Fox is most likely to use are from Monmouth University, NBC/The Wall Street Journal, Fox News itself, Bloomberg and CBS/The New York Times. Averaging these five polls gives Trump a strong lead with 23.2 percent support. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush is a distant second with 12.8 percent support, and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is nearby with 10.6 percent. After that, five candidates are clustered together within a narrow range: Ben Carson and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee each have 6.6 percent support, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) has 6.2 percent, Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) has 5.2 percent and Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.) has 4.8 percent.

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Kasich, who are polling with 3.4 and 2.8 percent support respectively, could be the final two candidates to make the main stage. Perry, meanwhile, has just 2 percent support -- but this puts him within the averaging error. Taking into account the differences in the five polls used to create the average, it could be that Perry has a shot at the 10th slot.

    Nearly all the candidates got an opportunity to test their pitches Monday night during a candidate forum at Saint Anselm College in Manchester, New Hampshire. But the strict rules of the event -- each candidate was given just five minutes to take questions -- left several of them struggling to articulate a coherent message or stand out from the pack.
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  5. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

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  6. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Donald Trump For President In 2020

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    CoinOKC Donald Trump For President In 2020

  8. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

    The actual election is still 15 months away. Why are Republicans in such a hurry to pick the guy that will lose to Hillary? I guess with a clown car as big as the GOP has, it just might take that long to count them all. After all, it seems that anyone feels that they have a shot at the GOP nomination if they can just find themselves a billionaire.
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  9. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Donald Trump For President In 2020

    LOSE to the Hilderbeast?!?! LOL! Have you seen her declining poll numbers lately? People are beginning to pay attention and what they're seeing, they're not liking. Do you blame them? At this point, I would bet that someone as partisan as you wouldn't even vote for her.
  10. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

    Pissed off Latinos - Check
    Pissed off women - Check
    Pissed off African Americans - Check
    Never had the youth vote - Check

    Yeah, good luck old white people.
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  11. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

    Decades later, GOP still sees value in sex scandal
    08/04/15 12:58 PM
    By Steve Benen

    There were plenty of interesting moments in last night’s forum in New Hampshire for the Republican presidential candidates, but by some accounts, this was the moment that sparked some chatter in the audience.
    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) missed the Planned Parenthood vote to attend the forum, where he turned heads with an attack on Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton’s honesty that referenced her husband’s affair with an intern, Monica Lewinsky, while in office.
    “I’m fluent in Clinton speak,” Graham said. “When Bill says ‘I didn’t have sex with that woman,’ he did….”
    Graham, you’ll recall, was in the U.S. House during the Lewinsky scandal, and served as an “impeachment manager” when the Senate weighed whether to remove then-President Clinton from office.
    What does the ’90s-era controversy have to do with the 2016 presidential race? Not a whole lot, but Lindsey Graham’s rhetoric wasn’t completely out of the blue, either. Stepping back, this seems to be an area of preoccupation for some of the Republican Party, despite the fact that the initial affair happened 20 years ago, and despite the fact that Bill Clinton won’t be on the ballot.
    Just three weeks ago, when Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) launched his presidential campaign, he was introduced by television personality Rachel Campos-Duffy, who told attendees, “Scott has been married to Tonette for 24 years; 24 is Bill Clinton’s favorite age.”
    Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), meanwhile, has made so many references to the Lewinsky story that it became a little creepy.
    RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, meanwhile, told msnbc’s Andrea Mitchell last year that, as far as he’s concerned, the decades-old sex scandal is one of many issues that are “on the table.”
    Is this really going to continue intermittently for the next 15 months?
    Clinton Nostalgia Syndrome.”
    It’s entirely possible that Republicans hope to bring Bill Clinton down a peg so that Hillary Clinton can’t fully exploit the familial advantage.
    But if this is the strategy, it’s unlikely to work. Remember, Bill Clinton’s approval rating actually climbedas the Republicans’ impeachment crusade dragged on. The day the House GOP actually impeached him – Dec. 19, 1998 – Gallup put Clinton’s approval rating at a stunning 73%.
    In the years since, Americans have had plenty of time to consider the Clinton presidency, and by most measures, he remains well liked and respected. As we’ve discussed before, the public is well aware of the sex scandal – people just don’t care. And unless the right has an idea as to how any of this is relevant to Hillary Clinton’s candidacy, it’s not at all clear what voters are supposed to think of the entire line of criticism.
    So, whether Republicans are coordinating their message on Lewinsky rhetoric or this is just an unfortunate coincidence, either way, the party’s tactic is almost certainly a mistake.
  12. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Poll: Democrats Losing Grip On Young Voters

    The GOP hopes to rebound with the youth vote.
    An increasing number of voters are using mobile devices for political updates, a new Pew Research Center study finds.

    By Andrew Soergel Oct. 29, 2014 | 2:37 p.m. EDT + More
    America’s young adults are swinging away from Democrats, according to a new survey published by Harvard University’s Institute of Politics. Though the GOP is closing the gap on Democrats in relation to young voters, a push away from the left may not guarantee a win for the right among the politically apathetic voting demographic.

    Harvard published its 26th Survey of Young Americans’ Attitudes Toward Politics and Public Service on Wednesday, a poll compiling political preferences and voting patterns among America’s 18- to 29-year-olds.

    The young adult demographic made up 11 percent of the electorate during 2010’s midterm elections, according to The Hill. With plenty of races still neck-and-neck heading into Election Day, even a fraction of the demographic could tip the scales in a particular candidate’s favor.

    “Our new poll today shows America’s young likely voters are politically up for grabs and could be a critical swing vote in races across the country,” said Maggie Williams, director of Harvard’s Institute of Politics in a conference call Wednesday. “The message to political candidates is clear, not just for now but in the future: Ignore millennial voters at your peril.”

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    Among those who said they “definitely will be voting” in next week’s midterm elections, 51 percent of young adults said they would prefer a GOP-controlled Congress. That's up from 43 percent during the 2010 midterms.

    When the question is broadened to include all young adults, including those admitting they are less than certain they will vote on Tuesday, 50 percent said they would favor a Democratic Congress, compared to just 43 percent preferring the GOP.

    “A lot of it, frankly, comes down to turnout. It seems that young Republicans are significantly more likely to turn out and participate next week,” said John Della Volpe, the institute's polling director. “It’s less about young people becoming more Republican, they’re just a little bit less Democratic than we’ve seen through the Obama years from 2008 to 2012.”

    The poll suggests young adults, who had overwhelmingly swung to the left during the last two presidential elections, may be souring on Obama and the Democratic Party. At the height of his popularity among young voting adults, Obama carried 66 percent of the demographic in 2008 and 60 percent in 2012, according to The Washington Post.

    But the president’s current approval rating among young adults is 43 percent, hovering slightly above his historically low 41 percent approval rating last November.

    Volpe notes the president’s approval rating among young adults shows a sharp racial and ethnic divide, “even as we think about millennials as a post-racial generation.” Though Obama maintains a 78 percent approval rating among young African-Americans, his favorability among young Hispanics has plummeted. Obama commanded an 81 percent approval rating in the young Hispanic demographic in 2009. Today, that number is 49 percent. His approval is also down among young white Americans.

    [MORE: Barack Obama Finds a Midterm Mission]

    “In 2006 and 2008, a majority of young white millennials supported Democrats. Now, the percentage of young white Americans who support President Obama is only 31 percent,” Volpe said Wednesday.

    Volpe suggests the push away from the left represents the young political spectrum correcting itself back into a “swing group” rather than a guarantee for Democrats.

    “When you look at the pre-9/11 results of elections in the United States, young people were a swing group,” Volpe said of the demographic’s voting pattern before the Bush administration and unpopular War on Terror. “Today, young people are just returning to their pre-Obama roots as being a swing constituency like many other groups in American politics.”

    But bad news for Obama does not necessarily mean good news for the GOP, especially considering Obama maintains a significantly higher approval rating than Congress does among young adults. Only 23 percent of the demographic approves of the job Republicans are doing in Congress, compared to 35 percent approving of Democrats.

    A reported 33 percent of young people surveyed identified as Democrats, compared to 22 percent siding with the GOP and about 42 percent of young adults identified themselves as independents.

    [ALSO: Super PACs Attack as Record Amounts of Outside Money Flood 2014 Elections]

    These results mirror a January Gallup survey, which found that 31 percent of all adults identify as Democrats, 25 percent identify as Republicans and 42 percent identify as independents. Additionally, Obama’s 43 percent approval rating among young adults is identical to the president’s approval rating reported by a Washington Post-ABC News poll published earlier this week.

    “Young people, millennials are no longer the political outliers that they once were when we look back on the elections from 2004 to 2012,” Volpe said.

    The report surveyed more than 2,000 18- to 29-year-olds across the country from Sept. 26 to Oct. 9 and has a margin of error of 2.6 percent.
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  13. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Why would they even want to have a debtae?
    Hillary is the only candidate the party will allow the voters to consider & by putting her in a debate, it can only hurt her. Who would she debate anyway? Sanders isn't even a registered democrap so he'd probably be excluded and no one has even heard of the others...though I'm sure the entire world is on the edge of it's collective seat waiting to hear more about Chaffee's plan to move us to the metric system!

    **I'm praying Joe Biden runs because this the dems need one more idiotic old rich white dude to round out it's field.
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  14. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

  15. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    ....and the dems are operating like some 3rd world banana republic by not allowing anyone (except a couple of kooks with nothing to lose) of substance (if one exists in today's dem party) to challenge Hildebeest.

    An all-around loser with more baggage than a cruise ship can't be the best the democrap party has to offer it's membership.
  16. CoinOKC

    CoinOKC Donald Trump For President In 2020

    Have you also been watching the Senate hearings seeking answers about Hillary's secret, hidden, illegal e-mail server? You're going to need more popcorn. In fact, you might consider having some pizza delivered, too!
  17. JLogan

    JLogan Trump is my President!

    I just hope Sanders wins the Democratic primary, because then we can have another GOP landslide like in 1984
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  18. JoeNation

    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

    I hope Donald Trump wins the FOX primary. In the latest polls, Sanders beats him by double digits.
  19. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    We can really thank Trump for that. I mean REALLY!
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  20. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Be careful what you hope for.

    I'm, also curious.

    What current GOP candidate would kill Sanders in a "landslide"?
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