New bombshells show Trump's coup threat was real and hasn't passed

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Please, don't let the word Constitution pass your lips ever again. You only denigrate the document with your false praise.

    A rush of new and shocking behind-the-scenes disclosures about how then-President Donald Trump sought to thwart the Constitution and the will of voters makes a clear case that America came closer to a coup earlier this year than previously known.

    The fresh evidence also shows what many people in Trump's inner circle knew in January: His case to stay in power was meritless, but an unchained commander in chief chose to listen to acolytes pushing wild conspiracies. Some of those who knew the truth refused to speak up, even as American democracy came under attack.
    Just this week, it's been revealed that:
    • Trump had blueprints that the Republicans tried to use to prevent Congress from certifying President Joe Biden's clear and genuine victory, in the form of a memo that laid out a plan for then-Vice President Mike Pence to thwart Biden's Electoral College triumph. The memo was reported in the new book "Peril," by Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, and was later obtained by CNN.
    • Trump's own campaign staff knew that outlandish claims of fraud made by the then-President's lawyers were utterly false, according to a report in The New York Times. But they did nothing to stop his dangerous allegations.
    • Trump sent a letter full of false information to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, asking him to start the process of decertifying the 2020 election.
    • "Peril" also contains a passage that shows Trump cared little for truth, what voters decided in November or bedrock constitutional values -- but agonized about his reputation and mused that accepting defeat would brand him as one of history's losers.

    This growing paper trail, which is likely to be of intense interest to the House select committee investigating the January 6 insurrection, appears to prove Trump's intent to stay in power illegally. The record is beginning to add up to an extraordinary indictment of the ex-President's abuses of power and one of the darkest moments in US history.
    In the fraught days after the election last year and after the Capitol insurrection, many observers were unwilling initially to use the word coup -- aware of the explosive nature of such language. The surreal experience of watching an assault on constitutional guardrails once thought inviolate also was, at times, hard to process. And skeptics of the coup terminology also suggested that Trump's efforts were little more than madcap and incompetent political theater.
    Yet the conspiratorial and at times clownish attempts to overturn the election -- especially by Trump's legal team -- don't make an unprecedented effort to destroy America's democratic traditions any less mendacious.
    The newly disclosed information builds on what was already known about what appears to be an expansive multi-front effort to destroy a peaceful and just transfer of power. The ex-President, for instance, initiated a vast disinformation campaign that has convinced millions of voters the election was stolen, helped by a pliant conservative media pushing his lies.
    Last month, it emerged that Trump had tried to pressure the Justice Department to declare election fraud and leave the business of stealing power to him and his congressional allies. Trump, of course, instigated another aspect often seen in coups against legitimate power -- a mob -- by inciting supporters who invaded the Capitol.
    His corrupt behavior initiated a flurry of new election laws passed in Republican-run states that could make it easier for Trump or a like-minded constitutional arsonist to steal power in the future. And he is endorsing rafts of candidates for state offices like secretary of state, creating a potential pool of local officials who could be minded to interfere in a future election.

    Analysis: New bombshells show Trump's coup threat was real and hasn't passed - CNNPolitics
  2. StankyBoy

    StankyBoy Active Member

    Pence rejected this, and stood tall in the face of the president. Rightfully so.
  3. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    My God, you are ignorant. Really......
  4. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    yeah nothing to see here....happens all the time
  5. StankyBoy

    StankyBoy Active Member

    Yes, lots of political figures reject unconstitutional premises. Quite a few Republicans. Some Democrats too.

    Don’t act like nothing has never been unconstitutional in American history
  6. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    I am trying to remember the last coup attempt in this country. Not the hyperbolic rants from the Right every time a Democrat wins but an actual coup attempt by a sitting president. Nope, just Trump.
  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Well, Little Joe, you sure are giving it one hell of a try, with your BS.

    As to the last attempt, it was Roosevelt. Read SOMETHING Little Joe, if only to give an indication that you possibly have a functioning brain
  8. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    I'm curious so please enlighten me would you Charley.

    How did Roosevelt attempt a coup?
  9. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    MAGAts are the ones who aim to stoke the flames of fear/anger into hateful violence for their fascist leadership. Whether they are the minority or not, the GOP appears to bend to them/Trump, either way.

    To assume they have no power is wrong. They very clearly do. What was it, 74 million votes TFG received? That's Republican/MAGA America.
  10. ddddd

    ddddd Active Member

    Like the eviction moratorium: unconstitutional but the current administration kept it going.
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  11. yakpoo

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    This is just another of a long list of Democrat "bombshells" that have proven wrong. At some point, people just stop listening.
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