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Not a big Trump fan, but...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. David Well-Known Member


  2. rlm's cents Well-Known Member


    I am a big Trump fan. He is a great pot stirrer. So long as he goes no further, I will remain a Trump fan.
  3. Stujoe Well-Known Member


  4. HollysMom Active Member


    Well, if Trump didn't say it, he should have. LOL

    Interestingly, that brings to mind a discussion I recently read on the IMDb forums for a movie called "Swordfish." Just before he shoots someone, John Travolta's character says that Thomas Jefferson shot someone on the White House lawn during his presidency. That is not factual: Jefferson never did anything of the sort. The OP of the thread on that particular forum stated that he was concerned over someone passing it along as fact, leading to the public believing that Travolta's statement was historically accurate. Many of the people participating in the thread seemed to believe that such a thing would never happen, particularly as 1) Travolta's character was essentially an unreliable narrator and 2) the character who was shot was objecting to Travolta's statement, even though he never got the words out. However, what the OP feared in that case seems to have happened in this particular case.
  5. rlm's cents Well-Known Member


    Unfortunately, that is the case for many emails today. No one bothers to check them out. A friend I used to work with is a radical conservative. He keeps sending me these wild emails. I probably find 3/4 of his are somewhere between real long stretches and outright full lies.
  6. CoinOKC Anti-Socialist


  7. Stujoe Well-Known Member


    Sadly, I bet 75% of Americans probably wouldn't even know what an unreliable narrator is.
  8. HollysMom Active Member


    Stujoe, you are 100% correct--although you have to remember that I was speaking to IMDb geeks, who know the layers that go into a CGI shot and count the number of times the Wilhelm Scream appears in a movie. I think that the Average American (if s/he paid attention to the lengthy opening monologue) would just realize that Travolta's character "molded" the truth from the very beginning, presenting things that weren't completely true as "facts" there. At least a few of them would pick up on his misinformation and question, "if he's lying about that, then what else is he saying that isn't true?" In any case, it's a deeply flawed movie with a few scenes I found objectionable, but it's a reasonable way to pass a couple of mindless hours if that's what you want to do. I'd recommend it to anyone who's a Travolta fan--or who's an explosion fan.

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