.... i put 4 out of 6 shots in an 11"x14" piece of paper at 50 yards with my 12 gauge shotgun shooting rifled slugs (sabo rounds). i was shooting generally a bit high and to the right. especially with double aught buck and 6 shot. definitely have to adjust the site a tad. and my right shoulder is letting me know that i need to use a shoulder pad next time. like one made out of that "swedish" memory foam you see on those teevee commercials. oh, and i need to buy an orange hat, so i can go out and start killing things, as i purchased my hunting license today. mheh. -- dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj this signature might or might not be for mimus. but it is for hatchetmama and shirley and smee. and LaBlueGirl and Dr. Flonkenstein. farewell for the time being, frankb. may you learn more mysteries on the other side than one can count on this plane.