Publix supermarkets offering COVID-19 vaccines to seniors in Florida -- but only in GOP-won counties

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  1. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    Stochastic terrorism, meet stochastic genocide.

    Publix supermarket teamed up with Florida to vaccinate senior citizens against the coronavirus, but there's something suspicious about how that's happening.

    The Lakeland-based supermarket chain is offering limited numbers of shots at 105 stores to those over 65 years old in Bay, Citrus, Collier, Escambia, Flagler, Hernando, Marion, Okaloosa, Santa Rosa, St. Johns, Volusia and Walton counties -- which The News Service of Florida noticed had all been comfortably won by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2018.

    All 12 of those counties had been won by President Donald Trump in November's election, as well.

    DeSantis was asked Wednesday in St. Johns County when the partnership might vaccinate seniors in nearby Duval County, which backed a Democrat in Joe Biden for the first time since 1976, and the GOP governor said the initial rollout had focused on areas with larger 65-plus populations whose hospital systems might need help.

    "I think the thing that separates, like a Duval from a Flagler or Collier, is Duval has a really strong hospital system," DeSantis said. "You've got many hospitals, a lot of them have gotten doses. I know people have gotten shots at a bunch of these different places."

    Publix operates 817 stores in Florida, according to the company's website, and DeSantis said there just weren't enough doses to distribute all at once at the supermarket chain 's stores, which are currently giving about 100 to 125 doses per day.

    "If we did it everywhere, you can do the math, you'd need hundreds of thousands of doses just for Publix, and they'd run out in four or five days on that clip," DeSantis said.
  2. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    I want to think this has another explanation.

    Few thoughts:

    1. Very few counties in Florida actually went blue. In any state actually, it's just that the blue ones are usually population centers.

    2. You don't necessarily want to distribute to high population centers because they would run out/get mobbed quickly. It also makes sense in my mind to get distribution statewide, especially when more rural places lack the same access to healthcare urban areas have.

    3. Older people are the target demographic for early distribution, and older people tend to vote conservatively.

    4. I'm gonna stop writing now because I'm reading the whole article closer and realizing that I'm making largely the same points DeSantis is... Well it's already written so I'm posting it. As much as I don't like DeSantis, there seems to be logical explanations for this distribution that he and I would agree on.

    5. Distribution is an absolute mess nearly everywhere right now. I guess I don't care as much as long as we keep it rolling.
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  3. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Frankly, this whole distribution thing is a mess.

    Trump drove hard for the mobilization and financial support of vaccines, and got that done in record time . . . no, far better than record time. A pretty extraordinary feat, really . . . and then this thing flops.
  4. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    no he certainly did NOT. Do you spend most of your time on parler??

    Viewpoints: Lessons On Failed Distribution Of COVID Vaccines In US | Kaiser Health News (

    Editorial pages focus on reasons behind the delay in administering vaccines and other issues.

    The Washington Post: Here’s What Leadership On Vaccination Would Look Like Of the 13.1 million doses of coronavirus vaccine distributed thus far, only 32 percent — about 4.2 million — have been administered. The alarming delay is largely due to the Trump administration’s lack of leadership. The administration seems to believe its responsibility ends once vaccines are shipped to states. But that’s wrong. Here’s what the federal government should do to infuse urgency into the vaccination efforts. (Leana S. Wen, 1/3)

    Fox News: COVID Vaccinations Are Going Much Too Slowly — Here’s How To Speed Them Up And Save LivesVaccines against the novel coronavirus were developed in record time. But getting those vaccines into the arms of Americans has been frustratingly slow at a time when speeding up vaccinations is literally a matter of life and death. Tragically, thousands of people are dying of COVID-19 every day in the U.S. and the confirmed death rate from the disease reached nearly 350,000 people across the nation Saturday night, according to Johns Hopkins University. Hospitals are running out of capacity to treat COVID-19 patients in addition to patients being treated for other conditions. (Sally Pipes, 1/3)

    The Washington Post: Vaccination Is Going Slowly Because Nobody Is In Charge Vaccine development for covid-19 has occurred at a remarkable pace, thanks in large part to the careful work of the scientific community, both in the United States and around the globe. Operation Warp Speed played a key role in accelerating the creation of vaccines without cutting corners, and producing millions of doses. As a result, the two vaccines that have been authorized by the Food and Drug Administration are safe and highly effective against the disease. That’s why we want them to reach people’s immune systems as quickly as possible — and why the current delays in getting people vaccinated are so disappointing. Let’s start with a quick recap: As recently as early October, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said we’d have 100 million doses of vaccine by the end of 2020. One month later, that was reduced to 40 million doses. As recently as Dec. 21, Vice President Pence, the head of the White House coronavirus task force, said that we were on track to vaccinate 20 million Americans by Dec. 31. Unfortunately, 20 million doses haven’t even gotten to the states. (Ashish K. Jha, 12/31)

    The Wall Street Journal: Pharmacies Can Get Shots In Arms The federal government built a Covid vaccine delivery scheme to track every dose shipped to the states. Information like location and travel history is available in a software platform developed for “Operation Warp Speed” called Tiberius, so that public-health officials can make sure the limited supply is allotted carefully and fairly. These are important goals, but central control comes with a trade off: it slows down the process of getting shots into arms. Poor local and state planning hasn’t helped. Neither has the trickle of funds the feds have provided to stand up vaccination sites. Add it all up and you have the explanation for the sluggish pace of immunization. Fewer than 5 million people have been vaccinated so far, versus the 20 million promised. Here’s what’s needed to turn things around. (Scott Gottlieb, 1/3)

    Miami Herald: You Know How Nero Fiddled While Rome Burned? That’s How Much Trump Cares About The Lack of COVID VaccinesThe day before returning to the White House for New Year’s Eve, Donald Trump played golf at his country club in West Palm Beach. He was there from 9:26 a.m. to 2:33 p.m., a leisurely round. Meanwhile thousands of his fellow Floridians in the same high-risk bracket spent many of those hours strangling their phones, unsuccessfully trying to get an appointment for the first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. Others lined up early at inoculation sites, only to be sent home after supplies soon ran out. “Operation Warp Speed” currently looks more like “Operation WTF.” The big rollout is rocky and slow throughout the country, but the only surprise is that people are actually surprised. (Carl Hiaasen, 1/2)

    St. Louis Post Dispatch: House Must Get To The Bottom Of Trump's Deadly Politicization Of The PandemicThrough spring and summer of 2020, the Trump administration attempted to “alter or block” more than a dozen scientific reports from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention related to the pandemic, a top House lawmaker alleges. Rep. Jim Clyburn, who chairs the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis, wants more information about this deadly politicization of public health. As usual, the administration has been uncooperative — so much so that Clyburn’s panel last month finally subpoenaed two top U.S. health officials. Good. This is urgent information to pursue, even if it can’t be fully exposed until after the current president exits. (1/3)

    The Wall Street Journal: The Year In Covid ‘Messaging’Anthony Fauci is being clobbered after admitting to the New York Times that he publicly lowballed his estimate of the Covid-19 herd immunity threshold, but it’s ludicrously late in the day to discover that “messaging” has been going on. Dr. Fauci’s early pooh-poohing of masks to preserve supply for medical personnel at least was defensible for the larger good. Not until summer did he admit the test-and-trace miracle cure was no such thing given the realities of asymptomatic spread. To this day, test-and-trace serves as the magic X in every pundit piece, allowing the author to claim that our failing mommy and daddy (a k a government) let us down by not enacting this simple solution. (Holman W. Jenkins, Jr., 1/1)

    The Hill: COVID-19 Doesn't Care About New York Or New DelhiPublic health experts say we will be in a much better place come late summer of 2021. We think that perspective severely discounts the billions of people living outside of the United States, the European Union (EU) and other wealthier countries — and in doing so, underestimates the difficulty of a true global recovery from health and economic impacts of the pandemic. (Marian W. Wentworth and Wade Warren, 1/3)

    Stat: Covid-19 Vaccines Are Safe. That Doesn't Mean No Side EffectsAs the first Covid-19 vaccines are being distributed in the United States and in other countries around the world, the main question now on many minds is, “Are these vaccines safe?” The answer is yes. (Wayne C. Koff and Michelle A. Williams, 12/23)
  5. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Yes, he most certainly did . . .

    Back in the springtime, Trump was ridiculed by the pharmaceutical and medical industries and the media for his insistence that a vaccine could be delivered in less than a year. At that time, developing a vaccine in less than a couple of years, let alone less than a single year was deemed a preposterous claim, and sold to the public as Trump nonsense.

    The problem with all of those in denial was that they had . . . no, still have little to no appreciation of how to do things that are so challenging and require tremendous amounts of planning and management. If I can think of one other similarly managed effort in American history which, against all odds, was successfully completed, it would be the Manhattan Project.

    As for those complaining about the slow rollout . . . they need only look back at Trump's September CDC communication of the States' need to begin developing their local distribution systems . . . SEPTEMBER!!! Who dropped the ball FD? The States dropped the ball!

    Oh, and before I forget . . . Parler? No, I don't visit useless bubble-gum sites like those you frequent.
  6. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    the vaccines were developed overseas. lol. "manhattan project" bwahahaha

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