Society: Centralized or Family-Centric

Discussion in 'Religion' started by yakpoo, Aug 23, 2021.

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Which societal model should America pursue?

  1. Centralized

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  2. Family-Centric

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  1. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    no. lock the people up who hire them and pay under the table and don't provide benefits. that's why they come here.
     
  2. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    They come here for a better life (aka. welfare).
     
  3. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    you don't know any immigrants who work hard? I do.
    You're a bigot.
     
  4. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    I got a question for you...we used to have open borders, then we didn't. What happened?
     
  5. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    I heard all immigrants worship satan
     
  6. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Yeah, I do, but I daresay the odds of finding one who doesn't increase astronomically when talking about someone who sneaks across the border versus someone who immigrates legally and declares his / her intent to naturalize.
     
  7. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    what should happen to people who employ them under the table?
     
  8. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    They shouldn’t get off Scott-free.

    What should happen to people who Encourage illegal immigration?
     
  9. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    depends. do they just say attaboy or do they pay them illegally under the table?
     
  10. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Don’t defend your viewpoint with those weasel words. You espouse the breaking of the laws of our nation. You are not one iota better than those employers are. They do it for financial advantage. You do it for political advantage.
     
  11. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    why do you excuse paying people under the table? that ruins the job market for legal americans.
     
  12. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Congratulations! You're halfway to enlightenment on the subject, FD.

    Why do you excuse illegal immigration? That ruins the job market for legal Americans.
     
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  13. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    follow the money. people sell out their fellow americans to pocket more money. don't blame the worker.
     
  14. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism


    Follow the money? Reading between the lines, I take that to mean follow the laptop . . .
     
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  15. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    People sell out their national sovereignty to pocket more domestic political influence. Don't blame employers. If you don't let illegals into the country, employers won't have any choice but to raise wages . . . not good at macroeconomics are you?
     
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  16. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Comprehension of Microeconomics seems to be on the "Help Wanted" sign placed on the Frontal Cortex, also.
     
  17. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism


    If I truly thought I stood no chance of somehow, someday changing his mind, I might not be as charitable, but I'm holding out for a glimmer hope.
     
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  18. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    That glimmer? It is the start of Open Angle Glaucoma. The nerves will fail and your will reach End Stage rapidly, if you continue to squint.
     
  19. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    Well said!
     
  20. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    When you put it like that, I'm starting to think we shouldn't trust businesses with our tax dollars. It would seem you're saying they simply cannot be trusted not to pass over Americans and exploit illegal labor given the opportunity.
     
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