I didn't want to highjack another thread so I started a new one. Here's the deal......tomc has been dodging a certain question for a couple of months but he has now promised to give us his answer as long as I would answer his question about Bush increasing the deficit. Here goes: First of all, I don't agree with your figures but that really doesn't matter in regard to my answer. Clinton reduced the deficit by slashing decimating our military & national security, this point can't be disputed. Bush ran on the pledge to increase defense spending so it shouldn't have been a surprise when that happened. Then a little thing referred to as 9/11 happened and the world changed. With bi-partisan support in Washington and the entire country we went to war- that can be expensive as we found out. And before some of you who would re-write history jump in, both dems & repubs were in favor of the path we chose...a path chosen because of intelligence supplied by non-partisan sources in this country & abroad (and yes, WMD do exist. there are a couple of hundred thousand dead Kurds to prove it). Hindsigh being 20/20 & all, it wouldn't have mattered who was in the WH at the time 9/11 happened, based on the intelligence we had & popular sentiment war was inevitable. Now that addresses the largest piece of Bush's spending. The rest of the money, you ask? No doubt there were vast sums that were spent needlessly. Repubs & dems alike share the blame on stupid Washington spending, excessive pork, etc. Some of it is inexcusable, no doubt. I say factor out the military/defense aspect out of the Bush deficit & judge his admin on what's left. Mistakes were made and the Repubs paid the price on election day. Now, tomc, let's see if you can live up to your word. I answered your question as sincerely as I could...I only ask that you do the same. Based on your belief that 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush adminsitration do you think KSM is innocent of the crimes for which he is accused, namely being the mastermind behind 9/11. Yes or no, then why. We await your response.