The "religion of peace" think??

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Midas, Jan 17, 2006.

  1. Midas

    Midas New Member

    There are some people here in the forums (you KNOW who you are!) that are sympathic to the muslim culture and islamic teachings. I, on the other hand, have come to realize over the last 30 plus years that this religion is the worst of its kind.

    Why? Islam is NOT a religion of peace. It truly is a religion of hate. For a mulsim to practice "true" islam, here is a small sample of what they preach...and worst yet, BELIEVE!! So go ahead and trust those peaceful mulsims, because maybe they are a "sleeper cell" ready to attack...again and again and again and again. They will never stop unless we stop them. Evil wins when good does nothing. Ask yourself this question...Which side on YOU on??

    I shall describe the Islamic Hell or Jahannum which was an imagination of Prophet Mohammed used primarily for two reasons:

    1.) To have a torture chamber for all the kafirs (unbelievers and people of other religions). 2.) To terrorize people into accepting Islam.

    The purpose of Hell in Islam is not to punish the Muslim wrong-doers. Because, for them Mohammed will recommend paradise, beautiful virgins and young boys on the Day of Judgment. His recommendation is final and Allah cannot deny it. It is available to all murderers, rapists, arsonists, cheats, thugs, pickpockets and pimps provided they are following Islam. On the contrary, a flaming Hell is reserved only for all Hindus, Sikhs, Jews and Christians, no matter how pious and God-fearing they may have been.

    This article is divided in two sections. The first section deals with the brutal instructions Prophet Mohammed gives to his followers about Kafirs and how to torture, maim, and murder them ruthlessly.

    The second section explains the various procedures devised by Prophet Mohammed's sick imagination for torturing people of other religions in Hell.

    Instructions to Muslims about Unbelievers

    Koran 9:29. Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

    So here Prophet Mohammed is instructing a true Muslim to fight people of other religions until the unbelievers debase themselves and pay tax (like socialist programs) for their existence. So the greatness of Islam is revealed only when follwers of other religions are humiliated.

    Koran 8:12 Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

    Here Mohammed is giving step by step instruction on how to torture and kill Kafirs if they don't follow Islam. Tolerate prophet, would you say?

    Koran 9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

    In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers to kill the idolators in any brutal way possible until the idolators submit themselves to Islam. Allah is indeed merciful !!

    Koran 9:73 Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their Home: an evil fate.

    Here Mohammed is trying to justify his brutal acts. He conveniently claims divine justification for the expression of his hatred by saying Allah himself revealed to him personally that people of other religions are evil and belong in Hell. Therefore, according to Mohammed any barbaric act against the unbelievers is completely justified.

    Koran 4:144 Believers, do not choose the unbelievers rather than the faithful as your friends. Would you give Allah a clear proof against yourselves?

    This verse clearly states that a Muslim can only befreind a Muslim. Mohammed in order to ensure that his followers will not befriend and get influenced by people of other religions, revealed this verse. This verse illustrates that if a Muslim befriends a Non-Muslim than the wrath of Allah will be on him. Therefore in Islam, people of other religions should be treated with contempt,disrespect and cruelty.

    Koran 47:4 When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.

    In the above verse, Mohammed is giving detailed instruction about how to maim and torture unbelievers in Jihad. And finally when the Muslims are satisfied enough after torturing and maiming the unbelievers, they should proceed to demand ransom for the captives. All for the sake for all-merciful Allah !!

    Koran 5:33-34 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, merciful.

    In this verse, Mohammed devises another recipe for torturing unbelievers. This particular recipe involves chopping off alternate limbs and expelling the Kafirs (people following other religions) out of the land. I guess a few beheadings are okay too!

    Instructions to Muslims regarding Christians and Jews

    Prophet Mohammed has reserved special position for certain sects of Unbelievers in his so called "Holy Book" Koran. Those unbelievers are none other than followers of Christianity and Judaism. I have selected few verses from Koran to display what Muslims are taught and instructed as far as treating Christians and Jews is concerned.

    Koran 5:51 Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong-doers.

    In this verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers never to befriend a Christian or a Jew. Because if they take a Christian or a Jew as a friend, they will commit a wrong deed and Allah's wrath will be on them.

    Koran 5:57 Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pasttime...

    Here "those who were given the Book before you" refers to Christians and Jews. Once again Mohammed is warning Muslims of all time never to befriend a Christian or a Jew.

    Koran 5:64 The Jews say: 'God's hand is chained.' May their own hands be chained! May they be cursed for what they say!...

    In the above verse Prophet Mohammed is showing his deep respect for the Jews.

    Koran 9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued.

    Here 'People of the Book' refers to Christians and Jews. The 'Religion Of Truth' refers to Islam. So in the above verse Prophet Mohammed is instructing Muslims to fight and torture Christians and Jews (who do not believe in Islamic version of God) until they pay tax to Muslims for their existence. Muslims are also strictly instructed to make the Christians and Jews feel 'subdued'. Allah is truly benign !!!

    Koran 9:30 The Jews call 'Uzayr-a son of God', and the Christinas call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are decluded away from the Truth.

    Here Prophet Mohammed is wishing that Allah's curse be on Jews and Christians. And what did the Christians and Jews do for such special favour from Allah ? All they did is that out of respect and love, they called their Prophets 'son of God'.

    Islamic Hell and Unbelievers

    Now we will enter the Islamic Hell brought into existence by Mohammed's hallucination and weird imagination.

    Koran 98:1-8 The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.

    Here "People of The Book" refers to Christians and Jews. So according to Prophet Mohammed, Christians, Jews and pagans are the vilest of all creatures in the world. Islam in deed holds a high respect for people of other religions !!

    Koran 22:19-22:23 Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Sclading water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'

    Here Mohammed has imagined vividly how people of other religions will be punished in Hell. By his sick and disgusting imagination, he is trying to make sure that people of other religions convert to Islam out of sheer terror of Hell. And if this terror doesn't work, then the Muslims are always instructed to convert unbelievers to Islam brutally by force in Jihad.

    Koran 18:28-30 For the wrongdoers We have prepared a fire which will encompass them like the walls of a pavilion. When they cry out for help they shall be showered with water as hot as molten brass, which will scald their faces. Evil shall be their drink, dismal their resting-place.

    Who are the "wrong-doers" here? None other than the people who DO NOT follow Islam. So Prophet Mohammed here continues with his hallucination and gives the description of Islamic Hell in the form of a revelation.

    Koran 40:67-40:73 Do you not see how those who dispute the revelation of God turn away from the right path? Those who have denied the Book and the message We sent through Our apostles shall realize the truth hereafter: when, with chains and shackles round their necks, they shall be dragged through scalding water and then burnt in the fire of Hell.

    Prophet Mohammed here explains what will happen to those people who choose NOT to follow his revelation "Quran"- a manual of plunder, rape and murder. So for people of other religions following scriptures other than Quran, Allah has pre-planned punishment. First they shall be dragged through scalding water with chains around their necks and then they will be burnt in the fire of Hell. Allah is truly merciful!!

    Koran 43:74 ...The unbelievers shall endure forever the torment of Hell. The punishment will never be lightened, and they shall be speechless with despair. We do not wrong, themselves.

    Mohammed was not satisfied by just having burnt the unbelievers once in Hell. So here he is saying that the punishment is never-ending and people following other religions will be burnt in Hell forever.

    Koran 55:41-52...That is the Hell which the unbelievers deny. They shall wander between fire and water fiercely seething. Which of your Lord's blessing would you deny ?

    Koran 76:1-5 For the unbelievers We have prepared chains and fetters and a blazing Fire...

    Koran 73:12 We have in store for the unbelievers heavy fetters and a blazing fire, choking food and harrowing torment: on the day when the earth shall quiver with all its mountains, and the mountains crumble into heaps of shifting sand.

    Once again, in the above verses, Mohammed is emphasizing that heavy fetters, choking food and hell fire are in store for the unbelievers while the Muslims enjoy the beautiful virgins and young boys in Islamic Paradise.

    Koran 77:20-77:50 Woe on that day to the disbelievers! Begone to the Hell which you deny! Depart into the shadow that will rise high in three columns, giving neither shade nor shelter from the flames, and throwing up sparks as huge as towers, as bright as yellow camels...Eat and enjoy yourselves awhile. You are wicked men..."

    In the above verse, Prophet Mohammed is making sure that the people of other religions do not get any shade or shelter when they are burnt up in the Islamic Hell. Allah is also revealing to him that all people other than Muslims are basically wicked in nature.

    Koran 8:73 The unbelievers give aid and comfort to each other. If you fail to do likewise, there will be disorder in the land and great corruption.

    The Great Mohammed divided the Arabian society in two tight compartments: Momins and Kafirs. The word momin means believer in Mohammed and Allah. In contrast a kafir is a non-believer. The momins did not have to be better men than the Kafirs in terms of character or consciousness. Momins had only to recite the Kalima (incantation)- "there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his Prophet." By doing that the 'momins' become qualified to kill as many kafirs as they could or pleased, looting and burning their belongings and enslaving their women and children in the process. In the above verse, Prophet Mohammed once again is telling his followers to help each other in banning up against unbelievers (people of other religions)

    Koran 21:96-21:101 ...The unbelievers shall stare in amazement, crying: 'Woe to us! Of this we have been heedless. We have done wrong.' You and your idols shall be the fuel of Hell; therein you sall all go down.

    This verse is another instance which displays the deep respect Islam shows towards other religions. Here Prophet Mohammed is stating that people who choose to represent God by idols will be burnt in hell along with their idols. Islam is truly compassionate towards other religions!!

    Koran 33:7-12 ...But for the unbelievers He has prepared a woeful punishment...

    Here, we find the same old blabbering by Mohammed once again regarding how unbelievers will be punished.

    Koran 44:40-49 ...The fruit of the Zaqqum tree shall be the unbelievers's fruit. Like dregs of oil, like scalding water, it shall simmer in his belly. A voice will cry: 'Seize him and drag him into the depths of Hell. Then pour out scalding water over his head, saying: "Taste this, illustrious and honourable man! This is the punishment which you have doubted."

    Koran 52:1-52:15...On that day they shall be sternly thrown into the fire of Hell, and a voice will say to them: 'This is the Fire which you denied...Burn in its flames. It is the same whether or not you show forbearance. You shall be rewarded according to your deeds.'

    Koran 31-37 And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high amd would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds.

    Koran 56:52-56 Ye shall surely taste of the tree Zaqqum. Then will ye fill your insides therwith, and drink boiling water on top of it. Indeed ye shall drink like diseased camels raging with thirst. Such will be their entertainment on the day of Requital!

    Koran 69:30-37 We shall say: 'Lay hold of him and bind him. Burn him in the fie of Hell, then fasten him with a chain seventy cubits long. For he did not believe Allah the tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Today he shall be friendless here; filth shall be his food, the filth which sinners eat...

    The above five verses contain detail description of various kinds of punishments people of other religions will undergo in Islamic Hell. They display the true respect Prophet Mohammed had for people who were not following Islam. And through these verses, Koran (the manual for plunder, rape and murder)which is treated as a timeless scripture by Muslims, teaches how lowly people of other religions should be treated by Muslims regardless of time or space.

    Koran 2:39 Those who reject faith shall be the companions of the Fire.

    Koran 2:89-90 The curse of Allah is on the unbelievers... humiliating is the punishment.

    Koran 13:13,,.He hurls his thunderbolts at whom he pleases Yet the unbelievers wrangle about Allah..

    Koran 58:5 Those who resist Allah and his messenger will be humbled to dust.

    Koran 70:15-16 The fire of Hell will pluck out his being right to the skull..

    Koran 5:10 As for those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are the heirs of Hell.

    The summary of the above six verses is that a person follwing any religion other than Islam, is automatically assigned to Hell. His good thoughts, good actions or peity are of no value until and unless he follows Islam. So if in this life, a person does not follow Islam and does not believe in Islamic scripture, Allah will store Hell-Fire, Hot water, Molten brass, thunderbolts and other humiliating punishments in the life hereafter for him.

    Koran 70:39 We have created the unbelievers out of base matters.

    So here Prophet Mohammed claims that all the people of other religions are basically useless and evil because they are made up of base matters. But the same people become Allah's favourite and become capable of earning Houris and young boys when they convert to Islam.


    So there you have it folks! These are the animals we are fighting. Their military playbook is their peaceful and loving Koran which pretty much tells true mulsims what intentions they have for us non-believers. Anybody still believe this is a true, peaceful religion?

    Ask the President of Iran if he believes in all of this...his answer is YES!! He is just one of millions and millions of islamic radicals (true believers) that are "bobbing and weaving" as their holy Koran is preached!
  2. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Sadly, so true. Even worse, liberals like Danr will deny all of this! Your post also shows why many prison inmates convert to Islam, because it doesn't condemn their crimes. The only thing good about muslims is that for criminals and perverts, they usually do public beheadings. Kind of deters crime, don't you think?
  3. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    You have answered a question that has befundled me for 35 years.

    Instructions to Muslims regarding Christians and Jews

    Prophet Mohammed has reserved special position for certain sects of Unbelievers in his so called "Holy Book" Koran. Those unbelievers are none other than followers of Christianity and Judaism. I have selected few verses from Koran to display what Muslims are taught and instructed as far as treating Christians and Jews is concerned.

    Koran 5:51 Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong-doers.

    In this verse Prophet Mohammed is clearly instructing his followers never to befriend a Christian or a Jew. Because if they take a Christian or a Jew as a friend, they will commit a wrong deed and Allah's wrath will be on them.

    Koran 5:57 Believers, do not seek the friendship of the infidels and those who were given the Book before you, who have made your religion a jest and a pasttime...

    Here "those who were given the Book before you" refers to Christians and Jews. Once again Mohammed is warning Muslims of all time never to befriend a Christian or a Jew.

    One of my best friends in graduate school was a Saudi graduate student named Abdullah. We were quite close despite my problem with his basic *****monger nature and his unfaithfulness to his Muslim wife who was back in Saudi Arabia. I am a pretty tollerant person. I even lent him $700 to pay for an abortion for the naive Midwest freshman that he impregnated. He was the life of the party.

    Anyway, when he went back to Saudi Arabia to become the new Minister of xxxxxx, he never returned any of my calls or letters. He apparently vanished in the desert. I would occassionally read something about him in trade magazines. Ten years later, I repeatedly asked another Muslim friend of mine why this guy never answered my letters. He repeated over and over that Abdullah was simply "busy". The later Muslim friend was fairly devout and fairly stand-offish. Now after all these years I finally see the light.

    One friend ignored me because it became convenient to do so, probably because of these Koranic verses. The second guy, an Egyptian, is a very learned man. He did not have the courtesy to tell me the truth. Surely he knew precisely what was going on. It never made sense until now.

    Whereas I have had a dozen pretty good Muslim friends, I have none now. Quite a coincidence. I still have Jewish friends, and they are good people.
  4. craigG

    craigG New Member

    So, quickdog, you paid for the murder of a little baby??? You sir, are a disgrace to coin collectors and the human race.
  5. quick dog

    quick dog New Member

    Interesting comment.

    A friend asked me for $700 and I gave it to him without questions.

    You have a curious perspective of things.
  6. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    I became pro-life after seeing the images of a baby as it develops and how soon the whole process actually takes place.
    Most of the technology today that shows the detailed information was not around when I was younger, before college, and I had the "liberal" view then myself Craig.

    The koran states, powerphasing, that a muslim should befriend a non-muslim but if the non-muslim does not accept allah then well the muslim could kill him ,rape that "friend's" wife and kids and take his property with Allah's blessings.

    Good thing you didn't meet these people in the middle east quickdog.
  7. craigG

    craigG New Member

    In your post you apparently knew at the time what he needed the money for. You are the one with the curious perspective.
  8. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Craig, I don't think that you understand but 25 years ago or so the word went about that a baby wasn't a baby until a certain trimester or something.
    Now that technology is showing the truth so that lie has changed to "its a women's body" misdirection of truth. You really shouldn't be so quick to judge those without knowing what they did not know or could not have known at the time.
  9. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Plus the purpose of this thread is to help wake up some people in regards to the threat that hangs over all of us in that sect of hate called Islam.
  10. craigG

    craigG New Member

    I wouldn't want to distract attention from the very real threat of Islam, but I was rather surprised that quickdog would ...oops. Well anyway, Islam is a very big problem, and don't expect Bush to fix it when he is cozying up to the Saudi leaders.
  11. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Thanks quick dog...sometime you have to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

    Ever since I watched Jim McCay report during the 72 Olympic summer games, "they are all gone" along with reading/seeing on the news about repeated acts of violence and wars...I always asked myself, "What is wrong with these people?"

    Obviously, one of the answers to this question is in their "holy book"

    But forget about the Koran and let's blame the Jews...that's your local muslim's take to their ills.
  12. craigG

    craigG New Member

    Shows what a filthy liar Bush is, calling Islam "a peaceful religion".
  13. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger Another Wandering Celt

    We are just beginning to see the incredible magnitude of the task before us... It is before your eyes and plain as day. Islam is Satan Incarnate

  14. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Hang on here,Islam is not the worst religion.I get on very well with Muslims.They are not supporters of idiots such as Osama bin Laden at all.I do agree with them stoning homosexuals to death,& quite rightfully so!

    The world's worst 'religion' is actually Roman Catholicism,as the Pope of Rome's word is law.Since 1916,
    the Vatican have been funding Sinn Fein/I.R.A.'s campaign
    of Britanniphobic terrorism,genocide & ethnic cleansing in Ulster,the Republic of Ireland,& the United Kingdom,which is still continuing today,despite Gerry Adams' ridiculous claims that he is an advocate of peace.Do Protestants & Jews enjoy full civil rights in the Republic of Ireland today? I don't think so.In 1910,Ireland's Protestant population was
    around 10%.Today,the Protestant population is around 2 or 3%.Do you know why? It is because successive Irish governments have been enacting some extremely anti-Protestant policies with the encouragement of the Popedom of Rome since Ireland became independent in 1922.The worst act of anti-Protestant discrimination was the Fethard-on-Sea Boycott of 1957,in which the parents,one of them a Protestant refused to raise the children in the hated Cult of Rome.

    Did you know that up until the late 1990's,the Irish branch of the Cult of Rome was still encouraging the barbaric practice of using young girls in laundries & kitchens? That was a legalised form of slavery,as the Irish politicians turned a blind eye.

    I used to be a member of the Cult of Rome many years ago.The final straw that drove me out was being abused as a kid.I was bashed over by a Taig priest,who later turned out to be a subhuman faggot,when I was 13.I hated the idiot.I am now a fiercely loyal member of the Anglican Church.

    No doubt,the Romish cult has finally been caught out over the child abuse scandals which has finally been exposed in the British Isles,Australia,America,& over here in New Zealand.In America,the Cult of Rome are being sued for millions of dollars.

    To cut a long story short,I would never trust a Taig as far as
    I can throw it.Rome has a lot to answer for,considering that they are a pack of idolatrous hypocrites & child abusers.It is a fact that nearly all Taig priests are filthy faggots,& for that,they are Hell-bound!

  15. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Aiden here you go again, I can understand why but you cant tar every gay person the same way just because someone hurt you badly. Also the IRA has sweet F.A. to do with Catholosism except to use it when it suits them the name of the game there is power my friend pure & simple, after all there are enough Catholics to have taken over the world years ago if they realy wanted to.
    As for Muslims there are good and bad even amongst them, what you are seeing is people playing on the fears & superstitions of (In a lot of cases) pesants and whipping them up, dont forget that the Kurds are Muslims yet I have seen them called our allies more than once. I dont like nor do I trust Saudies never have never will but I dont hate em, hate leads to genocide is that what you advicate??

    De Orc
  16. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I really hate all those white people. They are all KKK members and want to enslave anyone that isn't white. All white people are the same. Just big old racists. They say they want peace and then attack other counties. They say that they are Christians and that they love the sinner, not the sin, but like the rest of humanity, they are as sinful as the rest of us but can't see it. White people think that they are God's gift to the world but if Jesus came to earth today, he sure wouldn't want to be one of them. I think white people should just shut up for a change. Those white people make me so mad.
  17. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Moen1305,I am a white man,but I am no advocate of the Ku Klux Klan.I try & take people as I find them.I get on very well with the Somalis who live in the flats where I live.
    I can accept that white men committed some wrong things in their history,but there's nothing I can do to change history.So,please do not make generalisations based on an old discredited ethnic stereotype.Adolf Hitler tried to do that.Where did it lead him? Straight to the Lake of Fire in Hell!

  18. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Meon just can't stand it when somebody introduces documents, historical facts, or even actual passages from the mulsim "bible" that truly show this religion for what it is. So what does he do? He makes a ridiculous statement that all white people are members of the KKK.

    That's a liberal tactic. They can't win in the arena of ideas, fact, or insight, so their only recourse is to try to destroy their enemies with name-calling. You saw this at the Alito hearings because liberals have no other avenues to make their case, so they resort to petty name calling. Liberals will repeat the charge or name-calling enough times and HOPE that it is picked up by the main stream media where it is then reported as FACT.

    So don't worry about Meon's comments because it is nothing new...just the same 'ole tactic when liberals can't prove their point, which is (in this thread) to PROVE that islam is a religion of peace!

    One or two passages that may be taken out of context?? Well, your published Koran has over 100 references to how infidels should be treated. Show me another major religion that has as much hate in its "bible" as the muslim Koran.

    Maybe our G.I.'s SHOULD have used the Koran as toilet paper...can you think of a better use for this book? Hey, if it gets a muslim terrorist to talk, I am ALL FOR IT!!
  19. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Midas you act like you are the sole arbiter of all truth and fact. The fact is that some of the people that you disagree with can be correct sometimes. As a matter of fact your narrow closed minded philosophy is the type of thinking that causes most of the world's problems.
  20. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Again ladies and gentlemen, another brilliant post by Danr!!

    The only word in your post that made any sense was the word "sometimes". As for my narrow view...excuse me, have you READ the Koran? And you are calling me narrow minded?

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