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Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Oct 28, 2019.
This happens when his face is shown on the big screen... People are waking up.
The game was in Washington DC, which is heavily Democratic with lots of government workers and poor people who are dependent upon government transfer payments.
It’s hardly a win for your side. It’s just a reflection of the deep divisions in the country.
I have to agree, if you call an angry mob of people a political win, then there is room for concern within your ideology.
I never called it a political win or any other kind of win. It was simply something that happened to a historically unpopular president. As far as the make up of the crowd goes, you have no idea whatsoever who they were or what their political ideals are. You're just throwing excuse darts.
Let's see ... We are in Washington DC where the main employer is the Federal Government and the lobbyists who work to suck money out of it. The crowd mostly comes from DC, northern Virginia and Maryland, all the places were government employees live.
Years ago, Maryland and Virginia were red or purple states. Now they are solidly blue because the government workers, especially the government employee union members, know who is going to deliver the jobs, wages and salaries to them.
Yep, I think that it quite safe to say that there were many, many government workers and the families there to boo because Trump is not what they want. They want Democrat presidents and legislators who will grow the size of government exponentially, especially if we get the socialist government that you want which will run all aspects of our lives.
Yep, I have pegged, but you want to try to convince others that the ballpark was full of political independents, go ahead. Most of the people who will agree with you are those who agree with you already.
So no proof of any kind, just your own personal biases, opinions, and prejudices as usual. I'm convinced. Trump is historically unpopular. That is a statistical fact.
P.S. Poor people don't attend many professional baseball games much less World Series games. And why wouldn't poor people hate this guy? He is every single thing that is obnoxious and disgusting that people usually caricature about the rich except in his case it isn't a caricature, it is who he is.
It is typical of republicans to punch down. I'm happy to punch up in response.
Not my words but they are apt....
"The crowd at the ball park was not a concentration of any particular type of person or political attitudes. They were baseball fans and their "partisanship" involved whether they were cheering for the Nats or the Stros. I presume---reasonably, I believe--- that the folks chanting "lock HIM up" were a mixture of Democrats, independents and rightfully disgusted Republicans. And, unlike the choreographed cowards at Trump's Klan rallies, the baseball fans said what they said TO HIS FACE.
Criticizing Democrats for the spontaneous outpouring of disgust at the ballpark last evening is not just unfair, it's silly."
This is more of a lesson in just how ill mannered our society has become. It's an embarrassment really.
Trump rarely attends such unscripted public events. He mostly stays inside his highly partisan bubble. I think that this shows just how unpopular he really is. My guess is that you won't see Trump outside that bubble any time soon in the near future. His ego is too fragile to handle the truth.
Well now, God has spoken....
I guess you worship a different god. Might that god be Karl Marx?
True. I do not worship Trump. That would be you.
No, I don't worship him; I do support him now.
During the primaries Dr. Ben Carson and Carly Fiorina interested me the most. When the Florida primary got down to Ted Cruz and Trump, I voted for Cruz.
The trouble was almost anything was better than Hillary Clinton. The only candidate that immediately comes to mind who is worse than Hillary is Rosie O'Donnel. She and Cindy Shehan got on the presidential ballot in Florida in 2012. If that pair had been elected, we would have had President Shehan because Rosie is know to back out on her financial supporers when the going gets tough. Both of them are certifiable for the rubber room.
Honestly John..... I am of the mind these days that those of us that try to think from a common sense perspective are probably the ones destined for the rubber room. Common sense and civility are as archaic as the horse and chariot these days.
That is one helleva history of voting for the looniest also-ran in the pack.
Ted Cruz happens to be an extremely intelligent man. Of course Cruz does not parrot the stuff you want to hear, so you dislike him. Here is a piece of his resume:
Cruz holds degrees from Princeton University and Harvard Law School. From 1999 to 2003, he held various government positions, serving as Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), as an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and as a Domestic Policy Advisor to George W. Bush during Bush's 2000 presidential campaign. Cruz served as Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008, having been appointed by Texas Attorney General and later Governor Greg Abbott. He was the longest-serving solicitor general in Texas history and the first Hispanic American to serve in that capacity. From 2004 to 2009, Cruz was an adjunct professor at the University of Texas School of Law in Austin, where he taught U.S. Supreme Court litigation.
He was not my first choice, but only Cruz, Trump and John Kasich were left in the race. I can't stand Kasich. He had no chance of winning, and he was running his mouth about how bad Trump was. If Trump was that bad, then he should have gotten out of the race and made it Cruz vs. Trump, but he didn't. He was still ego tripping about having a deadlocked convention turn to him. He was totally delusional.
Everyone, even Senate Republicans hate Cruz.
As a first class hater, you ought to know.
The fact that he is more intelligent than 95 +% of the population probably has something to do with that.
I wasn't much of a Cruz guy myself. I was a Rubio supporter early on...... But John, you may have touched on something here. Society dictates "fairness" to such an extreme in this era. Perhaps it is just plain unfair to be more successful or to be smarter than the average person on the street. As absurdly ridiculous as societal behavior has become and all the pandering that caters to it.... Perhaps its just that simple. Let's just all scream as loudly as we can because dangit it's just not fair. That's what a six year old child would do and darned if that isn't what all this noise equates to in my mind anymore. We can all just scream so loudly that nothing of substance can possibly get done. We can all pass out coloring books and lollipops and be done with it all.
Funny, the GOP has been anti-intellectual, anti-education, and anti science as long as I can remember.