Trump has an excuse

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. JoeNation
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    There are the people that think Trump should be impeached and there are those that think that he should never be impeached. I doubt Trump wakes up in the morning and thinks to himself, "I'm going to go out and break the law today." I doubt that he even knows the laws he is breaking much less has a plan to break those those laws. I doubt in the moment as he is failing his oath of office to faithfully execute the laws of the land and the Constitution that he thinks about committing a crime or ignoring his duties under the Constitution. I think that he is genuinely unaware of the laws he is breaking when he does it but who is to blame if he ends up committing impeachable crimes during his presidency? His staff? His party? His family? His advisers? His own lack of willingness to learn the job he was elected to? All of the above?

    We have all seen that Trump famously takes zero responsibility for anything and never apologizes for anything he does or says. It is never his fault no matter the circumstances. So given the Ukraine call that has put the entire impeachment process into the public sphere, is it Trump's fault that he spoke candidly about a quid pro quo arrangement that clearly crossed a legal line out of ignorance of the law? YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT IT'S TRUMP'S FAULT.

    The fact that he was elected with no political experience and has done nothing in three years to learn the job, he doesn't read, he doesn't take or understand briefings, he doesn't listen to advisers, he undermines his own Intelligence Agencies and the State Department, he decries the free press at every opportunity, he insults and distances his administration from our allies, he cuddles up to Putin at every turn, he weakens our military by making irrational decisions that always seen to help Russia and a whose-who list of the worst dictators on the planet, should tell anyone paying attention that he deserves exactly what he has brought on himself.
     
  2. Mopar Dude

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    Nobody is above the law. And I believe you are sincere in your analogy. Of course he doesn’t wake in the morning wondering what law he sees fit to break today. It would be absurd to think any sitting president would reason that way.

    I would only say that I believe no man has ever been scrutinized as closely as this one man has. Wasn’t it just a few months ago that his high crime was misrepresenting a weather map? He has not been afforded the opportunity to succeed. And that’s fine. I have resolved myself to accept this will be the case until he is unseated. And given the choice of what has been offered to replace him.... It chills me to the core.
     
  3. JohnHamilton
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    Yes, Trump has never been able to conduct his presidency without partisan harassment. If the Republicans had treated Obama this way, they would have been screaming about racism with considerable justification.
     
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  4. JoeNation
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    Well, objectively speaking....

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  5. JohnHamilton
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    There is nothing objective about anything you post. You are a hater and a hack.

    I get the impression that you were or are a college professor. If that is true, it shows why so many of our young people are extreme leftists. I know what it was like when I was an undergraduate. You could be inspired by what you heard, but you needed some time in the real world to get some perspective.

    When you complete a degree and can’t get a decent paying job with it, you are stuck in the socialist rut. All you have is frustration and anger. Maybe that is our resident Trump hater’s problem.
     
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  6. JohnHamilton
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    There is an old adage in politics that you can’t beat somebody with nobody. Right now our resident Trump hater has plenty of venom, but no candidate. He would do well to tell us whom he does like, but don’t hold your breath. Hating is much more fun for him than building anything positive.
     
  7. JoeNation
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    All you ever have is ad hominem attacks. You can't defend your side so you make personal attacks.
     
  8. JoeNation
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    Well thank you...

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  9. JohnHamilton
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    JohnHamilton Active Member

    You are not a liberal. You are a statist who supports giant, all controlling, confiscatory government. A fair number of true liberals are concerned about the direction of your movement, which is led by AOC and the rest of “the Squad” which has gained undue influence over the a Democrat Party. They exhibit more than their share of anti-Semitism, and, like you, they hate with a passion. You historical political ancestors are the communists and the fascists.

    A true liberal would oppose Trump, but he or she would not exhibit the level of hate that you display. With respect to Trump, you exhibit a mental illness.
     
  10. JoeNation
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    Ad hominen again. I'm surprised.
     
  11. JoeNation
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    JoeNation FOX Lies, GOP buys!

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