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  1. IQless1
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    Trump’s Ex-Wives to Speak at Democratic National Convention

    Written by: Chris H.

    In what can only be considered the political coup of the century, the Clinton campaign has managed to secure both Ivanna Trump and Marla Maples to speak at the Democratic convention next week.

    Both women are both notably known for their high-profile marriages and scandalous divorces from billionaire Republican candidate Donald Trump.

    The Republican convention just concluded and a good portion of the key speakers were Trump family including current wife Melania and children Eric, Don Jr, Ivanka and Triffany his daughter by Maples.

    Strangely absent from the convention were Ivanna Trump, who claims to be Donald’s advisor on the presidential bid and Maples his second wife.

    No word as yet on what the ex-wives club speeches for the DNC might entail but we’re getting our popcorn ready.
     
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  2. toughcoins

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    Strange too, is it not, that a supposed advisor to Trump's campaign has received so little publicity of that role, until now? Advisor . . . yeah, what color tie to wear? . . . Red. Ivanna . . . is not a political advisor . . . she's an interior decorator.

    I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you . . . you might miss the rest of your precious convention sputtering about how Hillary could waste such valuable time on sources of such low credibility . . . Ivanna, who claims more credit than she is due, and Marla, who undermined a united family for personal gain . . . Then again, maybe you won't be missing much at all.
     
  3. JoeNation
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    What could they say? Just about anything is my guess. It certainly will be interesting if they speak. Who knows Trump better than the women he cheated on?
     
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    I would think she was the one who knew him the least!
     
  5. toughcoins

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    What could they say? . . . Anything that Hillary wants, right? I mean, isn't that how it always goes, truth be damned?
     
  6. JoeNation
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    If I had to guess, I'd say Clinton isn't writing their speeches. You really don't want to go down the road of speech writing right now believe me. Not after the Melania Trump fiasco.

    The ex-Trumps should have plenty to say without anyone's help. After all, they were literally in bed with the guy.
     
  7. toughcoins

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    I cannot recall the Clintons ever being content to distance themselves from influencing anything over which they had the ability to exercise control . . . unlike Mr. Trump, who is quite candid, and allowed Ted Cruz the stage at the Republican National Convention, and the latitude to speak his mind the other day.
     
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  8. JoeNation
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    1) I cannot recall the Clintons ever being content to distance themselves from influencing anything over which they had the ability to exercise control

    But, you really wouldn't have any inside knowledge of what they had influence over and what they didn't have influence over so to say you can't recall the "content" degree of the Clinton's is meaningless or disingenuous or more likely both. Sorry, but the statement just doesn't pass muster.

    2) . . . unlike Mr. Trump, who is quite candid, and allowed Ted Cruz the stage at the Republican National Convention, and the latitude to speak his mind the other day.

    Trump IS quite candid both when he says something and a few hours later when he walks it back. A fine quality for sure. Letting Cruz speak at the convention was just bad judgement on Trump's part. Given that Cruz is the single most hated man in the Senate on both sides of the aisle, Trump had plenty of warning and made a bad call anyway.
     
  9. toughcoins

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    . . . you're right that I possess no inside knowledge, however, anything in which the Clintons seem even remotely connected to turns out to be complete immersion. They are meddlers, plain and simple . . . they fancy themselves too clever to get caught, and one day will be burned beyond belief for that.


    I am actually a Cruz fan and, just as he promoted that I vote my conscience, I will do what I know to be right for the nation . . . vote for the man who says what he believes to be true over the woman who conceals what she knows to be true.

    The important difference between candidates like Donald Trump and George Bush and candidates like Obama and the Clintons is the following . . .

    . . . those with integrity will do their utmost within the power of their position to influence how the country works within the limits of their power, as determined by law . . . and they know where to stop.

    . . . those without will do their utmost to influence how the country works, outside the law if they feel it necessary. That perfectly characterizes Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton . . . and most liberals, for that matter.

    Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it!
     
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  10. JoeNation
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    1) . . . you're right that I possess no inside knowledge, however, anything in which the Clintons seem even remotely connected to turns out to be complete immersion. They are meddlers, plain and simple . . . they fancy themselves too clever to get caught, and one day will be burned beyond belief for that.

    Again, you're simply doubling-down on your original statement. ..."anything in which the Clintons seem even remotely connected to turns out to be complete immersion." meaning???? You don't use any credible examples of your opinions nor any examples at all. Again, nothing to see here.


    2) I am actually a Cruz fan and, just as he promoted that I vote my conscience, I will do what I know to be right for the nation . . . vote for the man who says what he believes to be true over the woman who conceals what she knows to be true.

    If Clinton, "is concealing it", whatever "it" is, then how do you know what it is she is concealing it? Again, you presuppose some kind of inside knowledge which is really just you concealing your own partisanship. Naked partisanship is kind of easy to see here. Trying to conceal it with baseless unsupported accusations doesn't really make your argument sound all that credible but you do have an opinion.

    3) The important difference between candidates like Donald Trump and George Bush and candidates like Obama and the Clintons is the following . . .

    . . . those with integrity will do their utmost within the power of their position to influence how the country works within the limits of their power, as determined by law . . . and they know where to stop.

    . . . those without will do their utmost to influence how the country works, outside the law if they feel it necessary. That perfectly characterizes Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton . . . and most liberals, for that matter.

    Integrity, hum? You speak piously of politicos and then lecture me on integrity. The word naive comes to mind immediately. The concept of integrity doesn't apply in the modern political environment. Not that we all wish it wouldn't but it simply isn't tolerated by either side and to be honest, it isn't coming back any time soon. You conflate integrity and legalities through your statements. I'm sure that you are smart enough to realize that they are different things. If someone breaks the law i.e. Nixon had Watergate, Spiro Agnew had federal income tax evasion, Reagan had Iran-Contra, Bill Clinton got a consensual blow job and lied to congress about it, Bush and Cheney lied us into the Iraq War, and Obama is probably the cleanest president in decades. Now, how many of those people went to jail? But Hillary Clinton the one that must be singled out and crucified because integrity matters so darn much to this country of ours. Yeah right?

    4) Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it!

    I have never smoked in my life. Especially after watching two relative die from lung cancer. I won't be putting anything in a pipe and smoking it. Sorry.
     
  11. toughcoins

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    Lecture, nothing . . . I'm simply pointing out what is likely obvious to all others, and what seems to escape you . . . That the Clintons and Obama have far greater inclination to repeatedly exceed their authority than do others.
     
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    So your opinion, backed up by no examples and no proof is, "...likely obvious to all others..". Well, you got me. I certainly can't argue with all others. :rolleyes: You and all others have a great day. o_O
     
  13. toughcoins

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    Unlike in your case, where there are precious few examples to cite for Republicans, I cannot afford the time to list the stream of alleged wrongdoings of the Clintons and Obama. That nothing has been proven is merely indicative of their mastery of deception . . . something not so perfected by those who got caught.

    Their time will come . . . I just wish it wasn't taking so long.
     
  14. JoeNation
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    1) Unlike in your case, where there are precious few examples to cite for Republicans...

    You haven't asked me to offer proof of Republican wrongdoing but I did cite several past presidents that have committed egregious illegal offenses and most of them were Republicans as opposed to you that have yet to cite one example of wrongdoing by Democrats. Oh, you certainly have made allegations and pronounced guilt and then, wait, wait....

    2) ...I cannot afford the time to list the stream of alleged wrongdoings of the Clintons and Obama.

    You got this right. "[A]lleged wrongdoings" isn't a wrongdoing, it is an accusation of wrongdoing. I have complete faith in your powers of observation when you state that the Clintons and Obama have been accused of wrongdoing. In fact, that is almost all the Republicans do these days. But don't confuse allegations of wrongdoing with actual instances of wrongdoing. You cross a line at that point and lose any credibility you might have had.

    3) That nothing has been proven is merely indicative of their mastery of deception . . . something not so perfected by those who got caught.

    Okay, you know as well as I do that this statement is total bullshit. If not actually getting caught sufficed as proof of guilt, we wouldn't have one of the most sacred principles in the American criminal justice system, holding that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. And this principle even applies to you. You might want to do the courtesy of giving others the benefit of the doubt as you would be afforded if someone made an accusation against you but could not prove it.
     
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  15. toughcoins

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    For you to declare as "total bullshit", the statement, "that nothing has been proven is merely indicative of their mastery of deception . . . ", seems willfully supportive of their evasive behavior when considering the overwhelming evidence to which the general public has been made privy . . . even after much of what there was had been destroyed.

    Much like in the OJ Simpson case, the evidence just doesn't add up to the conclusion, and while the accused has been exonerated by the legal system (or just not yet tried, as in the case of Hillary's emails) the general public is entitled to think what it will.

    So Joe, you go right on deluding youself Hillary that is innocent, and I'll keep fighting to put her behind bars, where she belongs . . .
     
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    1) For you to declare as "total bullshit", the statement, "that nothing has been proven is merely indicative of their mastery of deception . . . ", seems willfully supportive of their evasive behavior when considering the overwhelming evidence to which the general public has been made privy . . . even after much of what there was had been destroyed.

    So now my "willful support" and I have given none, of some behavior that you have yet to identify is further proof of guilt when considering some as of yet unidentified "overwhelming evidence" to which the general public somehow magically seems to agree with you on even though much of it is nonexistent because it has been destroyed??? This is tough to unpack.


    2) Much like in the OJ Simpson case, the evidence just doesn't add up to the conclusion, and while the accused has been exonerated by the legal system (or just not yet tried, as in the case of Hillary's emails) the general public is entitled to think what it will.

    I agree, the "evidence" whatever that is and you've present none, doesn't add up to your conclusion. You keep talking about evidence. Do you actually have any? You know, you claim that you don't have time to detail most of your claims but you are spending a heck of a lot of time coming up with total bullshit. Use some of that time more wisely.

    You and whoever you mean by the general public, are entitled to think whatever you wish but that is not proof of guilt and last time I checked, proof was sort of necessary in order to establish guilt or innocence. Are you just above that criteria at this point? You and the Salem Witch Trials have a lot in common.

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    So Joe, you go right on deluding youself Hillary that is innocent, and I'll keep fighting to put her behind bars, where she belongs

    Who is actually deluding themselves here? Is it the guy that has tried, convicted, and sentenced someone without any proof or is it the guy asking for proof that you can't seem to provide? A good question. You have really lowered yourself into the Right-wing pit of shame along side rimmer and coitus at this point. Such a disappointment but I've never met a wingnut that can make a cogent argument so I really have no right to expect one from you. My bad.
     
  17. IQless1
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    It may be this van's fault:

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    ...it's a right-winger's dream factory on wheels.
     
  18. IQless1
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    In other news:

    Brent Scowcroft, former national security adviser for Republican Presidents Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush, has endorsed Hillary Clinton for president.

    Scowcroft, 91, released a statement laying out his official endorsement Wednesday.

    “Secretary Clinton shares my belief that America must remain the world’s indispensable leader,” Scowcroft said, praising her experience as secretary of state. “She understands that our leadership and engagement beyond our borders makes the world, and therefore the United States, more secure and prosperous. She appreciates that it is essential to maintain our strong military advantage, but that force must only be used as a last resort.”


    The presumptive Democratic nominee “brings deep expertise in international affairs, and a sophisticated understanding of the world,” elements Scowcroft said were “essential for the commander-in-chief.”


    “Her longstanding relationships with a wide array of world leaders, and their sense of her as a strong and reliable counterpart, make her uniquely prepared for the highest office in the land,” he added.


    Scowcroft’s endorsement comes less than a week after Richard Armitage, former deputy secretary of state for George W. Bush, told Politico he was supporting Clinton over Donald Trump.


    Source.
     
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    Why Obama’s half-brother says he’ll be voting for Donald Trump
    By Isabel Vincent

    July 24, 2016 | 5:26am

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    President Obama's brother, Malik Obama, says he plans to vote for Donald Trump in November. Photo: Getty Images (r)
    President Obama’s Kenyan half-brother wants to make America great again — so he’s voting for Donald Trump.

    “I like Donald Trump because he speaks from the heart,” Malik Obama told The Post from his home in the rural village of Kogelo. “Make America Great Again is a great slogan. I would like to meet him.”

    Obama, 58, a longtime Democrat, said his “deep disappointment” in his brother Barack’s administration has led him to recently switch allegiance to “the party of Lincoln.”

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    The last straw, he said, came earlier this month when FBI Director James Comey recommended not prosecuting Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton over her use of a private e-mail servers while secretary of state.

    “She should have known better as the custodian of classified information,” said Obama.

    He’s also annoyed that Clinton and President Obama killed Libyan leader Moammar Khadafy, whom he called one of his best friends.

    Malik Obama dedicated his 2012 biography of his late father to Khadafy and others who were “making this world a better place.”

    “I still feel that getting rid of Khadafy didn’t make things any better in Libya,” he said. “My brother and the secretary of state disappointed me in that regard.”

    But what bothers him even more is the Democratic Party’s support of same-sex marriage.

    http://nypost.com/2016/07/24/why-obamas-half-brother-says-hell-be-voting-for-donald-trump/
     
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    Malik does sound like a republican, as they are prone to delusions. For instance, he believes Obama killed Gaddafi, and not the Misratan militia. He ignores the United Nation's role, as well as NATO's. Yep, sounds republican.
     

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