What the Mega-Mosque at Ground Zero Means to Worldwide Islam

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  1. ImWithStupid

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    We just don't know enough about where the financing is coming from for this place, and do know enough about the guy pushing for it.
     
  2. ImWithStupid

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    We just don't know enough about where the financing is coming from for this place, and do know enough about the guy pushing for it.
     
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  7. hugo

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    August 09, 2010
    Muslims Speak Out Against the Ground Zero Mosque
    Eileen F. Toplansky

    In the Ottawa Citizen published on August 7, 2010, two Canadian Muslims write that "Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation." Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah, both authors in their own right, sit on the board of the Muslim Canadian Congress.


    They ponder the "reasoning behind building a mosque at the epicenter of the worst-ever attack on the U.S." and wonder "why its proponents don't built a monument to those who died in the attack." Furthermore, it is not as if there are no Islamic centers of worship in New York City. The Islamic Society-Mid Manhattan is located on 55th Street. On the google map page there is an additional listing of nearby places of Islamic interest. Then there is the Islamic Cultural Center of New York on Third Avenue which caters to the Upper East Side and then there is the Assata Islamic Center at 172 Allen Street in lower Manhattan.


    Raza and Fatah go on to say that "we Muslims know the idea behind the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith and in Islamic parlance, such an act is referred to as "Fitna," meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran."


    From their Islamic perspective, these two authors state that "the Koran commands Muslims to "Be considerate when you debate with the People of the Book" ~ i.e., Jews and Christians. Yet, Raza and Fatah state that to build a mosque at "the place where Muslims killed thousands of New Yorkers is not being considerate or sensitive."


    Like many others, Raza and Fatah want to know where the funding is coming from. They state that if "Rauf is serious about building bridges, then he could have dedicated space in this so-called community centre to a church and synagogue, but he did not."


    In fact, both writers "passed on this message to [Rauf] through a mutual Saudi friend, but received no answer." Furthermore, they write that [Rauf] "could have proposed a memorial to the 9/11 dead with a denouncement of the doctrine of armed jihad, but he chose not to."


    They consider it a "repugnant thought that $100 million" would be spent [in building this New York City mosque] instead of sending it to "dying and needy Muslims in Darfur or Pakistan." "As Muslims," Raza and Fatah, "are dismayed that [their] co-religionists have such little consideration for their fellow citizens and wish to rub salt in their wounds and pretend they are applying a balm to sooth [sic] the pain."


    While Raza and Fatah "understand [Bloomberg's] and other liberals goodwill, they maintain that the "stand is based on ignorance and guilt, and [liberals] will never in their lives have to face the tyranny of Islamism that targets, kills and maims Muslims worldwide, and is using liberalism itself to destroy liberal secular democratic societies from within."


    One should ponder the last statement carefully. If Americans do not educate themselves about the horrors of sharia law, and begin to consider the dangers of a dual legal system in this country, then, in fact, we will face the genuine tyranny of Islamofasciam that is currently enveloping the world. Sharia law was thwarted in Canada because of the very concerns that Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah discuss but it is critically undermining Great Britain.
     
  8. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    August 09, 2010
    Muslims Speak Out Against the Ground Zero Mosque
    Eileen F. Toplansky

    In the Ottawa Citizen published on August 7, 2010, two Canadian Muslims write that "Muslims know the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation." Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah, both authors in their own right, sit on the board of the Muslim Canadian Congress.


    They ponder the "reasoning behind building a mosque at the epicenter of the worst-ever attack on the U.S." and wonder "why its proponents don't built a monument to those who died in the attack." Furthermore, it is not as if there are no Islamic centers of worship in New York City. The Islamic Society-Mid Manhattan is located on 55th Street. On the google map page there is an additional listing of nearby places of Islamic interest. Then there is the Islamic Cultural Center of New York on Third Avenue which caters to the Upper East Side and then there is the Assata Islamic Center at 172 Allen Street in lower Manhattan.


    Raza and Fatah go on to say that "we Muslims know the idea behind the Ground Zero mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith and in Islamic parlance, such an act is referred to as "Fitna," meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran."


    From their Islamic perspective, these two authors state that "the Koran commands Muslims to "Be considerate when you debate with the People of the Book" ~ i.e., Jews and Christians. Yet, Raza and Fatah state that to build a mosque at "the place where Muslims killed thousands of New Yorkers is not being considerate or sensitive."


    Like many others, Raza and Fatah want to know where the funding is coming from. They state that if "Rauf is serious about building bridges, then he could have dedicated space in this so-called community centre to a church and synagogue, but he did not."


    In fact, both writers "passed on this message to [Rauf] through a mutual Saudi friend, but received no answer." Furthermore, they write that [Rauf] "could have proposed a memorial to the 9/11 dead with a denouncement of the doctrine of armed jihad, but he chose not to."


    They consider it a "repugnant thought that $100 million" would be spent [in building this New York City mosque] instead of sending it to "dying and needy Muslims in Darfur or Pakistan." "As Muslims," Raza and Fatah, "are dismayed that [their] co-religionists have such little consideration for their fellow citizens and wish to rub salt in their wounds and pretend they are applying a balm to sooth [sic] the pain."


    While Raza and Fatah "understand [Bloomberg's] and other liberals goodwill, they maintain that the "stand is based on ignorance and guilt, and [liberals] will never in their lives have to face the tyranny of Islamism that targets, kills and maims Muslims worldwide, and is using liberalism itself to destroy liberal secular democratic societies from within."


    One should ponder the last statement carefully. If Americans do not educate themselves about the horrors of sharia law, and begin to consider the dangers of a dual legal system in this country, then, in fact, we will face the genuine tyranny of Islamofasciam that is currently enveloping the world. Sharia law was thwarted in Canada because of the very concerns that Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah discuss but it is critically undermining Great Britain.
     
  9. snafu

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    May Allah bless them and others that can see this..
     
  10. snafu

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    May Allah bless them and others that can see this..
     
  11. ImWithStupid

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    Im announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.

    This is not a joke. Ive already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance.

    As you know, the Muslim faith doesnt look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why Im building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.

    The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps but still want to dance.

    30. Honor Drillings
    29. Jihard
    28. Filthy Omars Rusty Trombone
    27. The Arabian Queen
    26. Dune Biters
    25. Goats Night Off
    24. The Pink Prophet
    23. The Leather Burqa
    22. Git Mo
    21. Pig in a Poke
    20. Sheiks & Freaks
    19. Sodom and Gonorrhea
    18. Osama Bin Dover
    17. The Exploding Goat
    16. Weapons of Ass Destruction
    15. Alla Assbar
    14. Anderson Coopers Apartment
    13. The Sticky Prophet
    12. The Sphinxter
    11. Grind Zero
    10. Nuclear Fuel Rods
    9. Hassans TestostoRoom
    8. Turbuns
    7. Bunker Busters
    6. The Tali-bone
    5. Al-Jizzera
    4. The Gaza Stripper
    3. The Sandy Gerbil
    2. The Camels Hump
    1. Hide the Minaret
     
  16. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Im announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.

    This is not a joke. Ive already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance.

    As you know, the Muslim faith doesnt look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why Im building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.

    The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps but still want to dance.

    30. Honor Drillings
    29. Jihard
    28. Filthy Omars Rusty Trombone
    27. The Arabian Queen
    26. Dune Biters
    25. Goats Night Off
    24. The Pink Prophet
    23. The Leather Burqa
    22. Git Mo
    21. Pig in a Poke
    20. Sheiks & Freaks
    19. Sodom and Gonorrhea
    18. Osama Bin Dover
    17. The Exploding Goat
    16. Weapons of Ass Destruction
    15. Alla Assbar
    14. Anderson Coopers Apartment
    13. The Sticky Prophet
    12. The Sphinxter
    11. Grind Zero
    10. Nuclear Fuel Rods
    9. Hassans TestostoRoom
    8. Turbuns
    7. Bunker Busters
    6. The Tali-bone
    5. Al-Jizzera
    4. The Gaza Stripper
    3. The Sandy Gerbil
    2. The Camels Hump
    1. Hide the Minaret
     
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  19. *Chi*

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    This is the first time, I have to TOTALLY disagree with you, and think that you've lost it, Builder. I guess the US govt. also hired Osama Bin Laden and his cronies to accept responsibility for 9/11 and so many other attacks and attempted attacks, hired all of the suicide bombers, etc. Psycho Muslims also don't exist, but are a creation and master plan of the USA to take over the world!
     
  20. *Chi*

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    This is the first time, I have to TOTALLY disagree with you, and think that you've lost it, Builder. I guess the US govt. also hired Osama Bin Laden and his cronies to accept responsibility for 9/11 and so many other attacks and attempted attacks, hired all of the suicide bombers, etc. Psycho Muslims also don't exist, but are a creation and master plan of the USA to take over the world!
     

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