Young Obama backers AWOL from health care fight

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  1. NewsBot

    NewsBot Guest

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Add this to President Barack Obama's problems in selling his health care overhaul: A lot of the tech-savvy activists who helped put him in office are young, feeling indestructible and not all that into what they see as an old folks issue....

    By BETH FOUHY

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  2. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Well now there is a surprise.

    As the story points out, these are the same people who tend to voluntarily turn down insurance because they feel they will not need it. Every version of Obamacare forces these same people to get insurance no matter what they want.

    Now I wonder why they are not supporting Obama???????
     
  3. RoyalOrleans

    RoyalOrleans I Am Not the Fine Man You Take Me For

    I know, it's hard to admit that you were wrong, isn't it? I mean, after all, how in the world can you admit that voting for someone with absolutely no experience at all - a former ACORN street organizer - someone who gravitated to Marxist professors and communist student groups in college - someone with no record of significant accomplishment at any endeavor - and someone who ran for office on the basis of focus-group slogans - how can you ever admit that such a vote might have been a mistake?

    Do you see our economy improving? Have you noticed the improving employment figures?

    Are you impressed by the burgeoning national debt that your children are going to have to pay back?

    Are you looking forward to seeing your health care rationed?

    How about the nationalization of General Motors, Citigroup and others? That's why you put that bumper sticker on your car, isn't it? So Obama could use some of his immense business experience to run some of our major industries. You do know he will nationalize the banks soon, don't you? Is that the change you had in mind?

    Don't you see how smart this media made messiah really is? He's raising taxes while other nations are lowering business and personal taxes to fight the economic downturn. You knew that he knew something that the other world leaders didn't know ... didn't you?

    How about our shows of determination and strength to North Korea and Iran? Obama really has the Gargoyle and Shorty in a tizzy, doesn't he? And I'm sure you're very impressed by Obama's instantaneous backing of that wannabe dictator and Chavez acolyte from Honduras.

    So ... still got that Obama bumper sticker on your car? It's one thing to have been so profoundly ignorant in the last election. It's quite another to advertise it.
     
  4. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member


    I predict that after health care and the banks, the next target will be a created crisis in energy as an excuse to take over the oil companies. He's already investing in Brazil's off shore oil drilling (I'm sure it's a coincidence that George Soros is a major investor in the Brazil oil company and not just one mor pay off to a financial backer at tax payer expense that the MSM seems to be myopic to).
     
  5. RoyalOrleans

    RoyalOrleans I Am Not the Fine Man You Take Me For

    This is just another instance of putting the theory of the Hegelian Dialectic into practice. It is the old "change" by the three step process.

    1. The first step is to manufacture a problem with a predetermined solution.
    2. The second step is to create opposition to the problem; in other words create anxiety and fear in the public. The ensuing conflict causes people to become panicked; therefore demanding action from their elected officials.
    3. The third step is to offer the already predetermined solution as the fix to the ?problem?. Of course the ?solution? will necessitate a restriction of individual rights and liberties.

    Through this three step process people are sufficiently panicked. This emotional stress causes mental confusion whereby judgment is impaired and suggestibility is increased. Thus bringing about ?change? that would have been impossible to impose on people without proper psychological conditioning. When this happens people allow their freedoms and liberties be taken away without seeing the ramifications of what the ?change agents? had in mind all along. This process makes people react with emotion and cease logical and critical thought.

    If you look over the political landscape for the past 100 years you can easily see this Marxist tactic put in play over and over again without fail. This is how far leftist, extremist Marxists have gained power while the liberty loving moderates and conservatives have had no clue as to the fact that they were just pawns in a grand transformational game.

    This process is most easily seen in the healthcare debates. During the early days of the Clinton administration Hilary came out with her healthcare plans. Republicans thought they won a victory when the plan was scrapped, but in reality they were being used. This simply served to put the issue of healthcare in the public mind as being an issue that was a problem. For the next 15 years the Marxists hammered home the idea that healthcare was a problem and government was the solution.

    Now that the public is sufficiently panicked the time is ripe to begin the dialogue that will ensure that the political right will take baby steps to the left in the debate on health care in order to ?compromise? on a solution. After this process is over it will just be repeated again and again while the opposition (Republicans) continue to compromise and take baby steps to the left until government healthcare is passed and freedom and liberty is slowly lost.

    This health care debate is just one arm of this ?Cloward-Piven? strategy. They want to flood the government until it cannot bear the economic burden. Then when the public is panicked and not thinking logically, capitalism will be blamed and pilloried.

    They will give us a solution under a cleverly guised term, but bearing it will be in essence socialism.

    Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
     
  6. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    In support of the Cloward-Piven strategy...

    [ame=""]YouTube - Khruschev: US fed small doses of Socialism,awake Communistic[/ame]
     
  7. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    But don't you see the real problem to be people like Bender?

    He is educated, smart, self-supportive, amd completely in the can for Obama, the mechanical excuse machine who lives and breaths the Socialist line even though he should know better.


    A great deal of people are stupid, sheep waiting for someone to sheer or kill them and they do not really care what one happens honestly. They stare at the magic box every evening and believe their being taken care of by the Government. I expect the sheep to blindly follow people like Obama. But Bender is not a sheep, as much as I give him a hard time I respect that he has made his own way in life and has some smarts about him but at the same time, he honestly believes that turning Socialist is the only way to go and that is what scares me guys.
     
  8. RoyalOrleans

    RoyalOrleans I Am Not the Fine Man You Take Me For

    "Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively, and without self-delusion- in the long run, these are the only people who count." - Robert Heinlein
     
  9. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    That is a good one, I will add that to my special list of profound quotes, thanks :)
     
  10. hugo

    hugo Big Time BS'er

    Maybe, these young supporters are just getting an inkling of an idea that Obamacare is another attempt by my generation to steal from theirs. How did the greatest generation sire the biggest asshole generation?
     
  11. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    All socialist "reforms" steal from future prosperity....too bad many blind themselves to that fact.
     

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