Hostess Twinkies Are Coming Back - With Non-Union Workers!

I'd pay union scale.

 

I'm paying for quality.

 

And you would get ripped off.

I would pay whatever price the employer and the employee agreed upon. That's free enterprise.

 

...but, when pressed, all I could manage was a (understandably) traumatized moth.

 

Quick question for you guy's if the new workers decide that they want to join a union at some stage will they be fired from working at the bakery?
I disagree with the oposit when a non union person is refused a job for not wanting to join the union.

 

Countdown to July 15. That's when Hostess will be returning to our store shelves with products produced by non-unionized workers in a leaner, trimmed down corporate structure. Without unions, Hostess may stand a chance of succeeding this time around and success for the company means jobs for its employees.

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NEW YORK – Twinkies are back, but they may be a bit smaller than you remember.​

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The new owners of Hostess have leaner operating costs now that they're no longer using unionized workers. It turns out the spongy yellow cakes may also be a little smaller than the last Twinkies people remember eating.​

The new boxes hitting shelves list the cakes as having 270 calories and a weight of 77 grams for two cakes, or 135 calories and 38.5 grams for one cake.​

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Right before it went out of business, the predecessor company had told the Associated Press that Twinkies were 150 calories per cake. Photos of past boxes online also indicate the weight to have been 42.5 grams per cake.​

A spokeswoman for Hostess, Hannah Arnold, said in an email Monday that the size change was made in "mid-2012" by the predecessor company. That would mean it happened in the months leading up to its bankruptcy, as the company was trying to keep its head above water financially.​

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Arnold has also said that the longer shelf life of Twinkies reported by the Associated Press earlier this month was made by the predecessor company right before it went bankrupt. The 45-day shelf life, up from 26 days, was a separate change and hit shelves Nov. 1, she said.​

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For retailers who request it, the company also said it's freezing Twinkies so stores can stamp their own expiration dates on them.​

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Twinkies and other snack cakes were purchased by private equity firms Apollo Global Management and Metropoulos & Co. after Hostess Brands said it was closing down in November. The firms, which are known for fixing up struggling brands, have far lower production costs because they're not using unionized workers.​

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The company has said that Twinkies will remain the same price, at $3.99 for a box of 10. Retailers may charge different prices, however.​

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Your question was sort of dumb in the first place. No tree service I have ever seen works by the hour. They charge a flat fee based on the size of the job. How they choose to pay their laborers is up to them. Based on most of the crews I've seen around, these tree services hire day workers and probably pay them in cash. If I can profile for a moment, my guess is that the day laborers are probably undocumented Mexican nationals. I guess this tree service owner can pay them whatever he likes. Not much they can do about it is there?

 

Regardless of whether they work for an hourly wage or a job rate, the employer and the employee still must agree upon a set amount. You "guess" that the owner can pay them whatever he likes? Actually, there's no guesswork to it. He will state the wage he's paying and the employee can either accept it or deny it. Is that so difficult for you to understand? You can pay them union rates if you so choose in the form of a bonus, but it just means more money out of your pocket.

"Undocumented Mexican nationals"? I can't believe you'd even profile workers like that! I take that back... I believe you would profile like that.

Just be glad that you will be able to enjoy Twinkies again and many non-union workers are being employed.

 

Is that anything like "illegal aliens"?

 

I don't like Twinkies. Never have. Now I've addressed everything relevant in your post.

 

BTW In case you missed it, I and my sons took the tree down ourselves. It was kind of fun. Believe me, they didn't make union or any other wage scale for the job. I save $700 and had a good time, well, until the clean up and stump grinding part. Then I wished I had hired some day laborers on my own. In Republican utopia, everyone is a day laborer and no regulations means workers die and are injured at alarming rates in worked related accidents, they work 12 hours a day 7 days a week, they make just enough money to feed themselves from the company store, they have no vacations, sick time, nor age restrictions, they are locked inside of factories, and generally treated like slaves. You think that was yesteryear? Go visit a Chinese factory some time.

 

You may not like Twinkies, but you must like the fact that people are being employed again. Yay!

 

When is the last time you visited a Chinese factory? Be honest.

 

That seems completely irrelevant to my point but I guess that you felt like you had to respond anyway.

 

Not at all. You seem to know a lot about Chinese factories. When is the last time you visited one?

 

Neither the smaller size nor the non-union workers will be able to compensate for the fact that people are choosing to eat healthier food these days which is the real reason that Hostess couldn't make a buck selling them. The novelty will wear off soon enough and then who will you blame for the company's demise?

 

There you go again making unsubstantiated assumptions again.

 

See, you just don't get it, do you? I'm not necessarily saying the new Hostess will succeed. If they make a product that the consumers don't want, then the market (not union demands) will decide whether they succeed or not. Unions proved to be the downfall of the old Hostess. Changing culinary habits may be something the new Hostess will have to address in order to stay viable, but at least a market instead of union demands will decide its fate.

 

Spot on!
Coin, you have just offered up an honest, reality-based commentary whereas fog-of-war merely regurgitated the far left whacko's tired narrative.
In other words, you just handed foggy a world-class smack down, an a**^-whooping and a lesson in how things work in the real world, all in one short paragraph.
Well done...I don't know that he'll be able to respond (unless of course his attention is focused on my words of support for the beatdown).