The libs sure are quiet now that they've shut down the gov't...

...especially the ones who pollute this forum!

 

Ok. Delusional much?

 

Since you are the first one to weigh in today, the answer would be "no".

 

It's like a school's pep rally, it's meant to boost the morale of the "kids" here by fooling themselves that they have something to be "peppy" about.

Once they realize women are more interesting than pointless BS, the BS should end.

It could take a while, as it's been over 50 years for some of them.

 

Maybe they are all waiting in line for the 'new MSNBC'

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I may refuse to argue with someone as stupid and lil Davy and his party line bullshit but I will let Senator Elizabeth Warren define the situation as it really is and not as the Tea Party Pukes want us to see it. I think the American people properly assessed the shutdown in the 90's and they will properly call this shutdown too. Idiots never learn from history. They repeat the same stupidity over and over.

 

Good luck with your FOX supplied meme....


Republicans looking for supporters of their shutdown strategy will have to look somewhere other than the country's biggest newspapers.

Of the ten most widely-read papers in America, not a single title's editorial board seemed to think that the House GOP caucus was going about things the right way. To be sure, most of those papers lean Democratic, but even the avowedly conservative titles, like the Wall Street Journal and the New York Post, had little love for John Boehner and his colleagues.

Below are excerpts from the papers' editorials on Tuesday and Wednesday.

The Wall Street Journal:

We support the Republican effort to get the best deal they can, especially in the face of Mr. Obama's cynicism. But sooner or later the GOP will have to fund the government and raise the debt ceiling that expires two weeks from now. Republicans will have made their point about fighting hard on principle while noting that to achieve more on ObamaCare they'll need more Senate Republicans after 2014 and a GOP President after 2016. Unlike much of what you hear these days out of Washington, this has the added advantage of being true.

USA Today:

In this case, however, the "they're all bums" reaction is off-base. This shutdown, the first in 17 years, isn't the result of two parties acting equally irresponsibly. It is the product of an increasingly radicalized Republican Party, controlled by a disaffected base that demands legislative hostage-taking in an effort to get what it has not been able to attain by the usual means: winning elections.

New York Times:

By Tuesday morning, the leadership failure of Speaker John Boehner was complete. In encouraging the impossible quest of House Republicans to dismantle health care reform, he pushed the country into a government shutdown that will now begin to take a grievous economic toll.

Washington Post:

Americans' respect for their Congress has, sad to say, diminished in recent years. But citizens still expect a minimal level of competence and responsibility: Pay the bills and try not to embarrass us in front of the world.
By those minimal standards, this Congress is failing. More specifically, the Republican leaders of the House of Representatives are failing. They should fulfill their basic duties to the American people or make way for legislators who will.

Chicago Tribune:

We're debt hawks. The unconscionable failure of Democrats and Republicans to deal with the growth of entitlement spending that has fueled the nearly $17 trillion in federal debt creates its own economic peril. The most frustrating thing is that a resolution of this impasse almost certainly won't deal with that entitlement crisis.

LA Times:

The GOP's clear objective is to dismantle the act, not to improve it — and the single-minded focus on that goal is what has led to the partial government shutdown that began Tuesday. Democrats can hardly be blamed for refusing to bargain over how to sabotage the law before it fully takes effect.

Chicago Sun-Times:

The federal government is partially shut down because an extreme faction of House Republicans is using its leverage to try to derail the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.
New York Daily News:

The elderly veterans who stormed the closed World War II Memorial in Washington on Tuesday showed more class, sense and spine than all of the Republicans who led Congress into shutting down the federal government.

New York Post:

Today the ObamaCare health exchanges go up. Meanwhile, the federal government appears to be shutting down. Once again, Washington’s got it completely backward.
We’ve long been skeptical of the defunding strategy, for one reason: Republicans don’t have the votes in the Senate.

Denver Post:

Incredibly, Republican hard-liners have triggered a shutdown in pursuit of a hopeless quest to delay or even defund the Affordable Care Act.
This is a battle Republicans cannot win.

 

Hahaah... Elizabeth Warren! We laughed at her when she was in Oklahoma and we're still laughing at her now. She's one of the biggest bags of puke ever elected. Surely you can do better than that, Little Joe.

 

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Here's a compromise:

Democrats will allow the removal of contraceptives being covered under the ACA, and republicans will allow higher taxes to be placed on single individuals earning $50,000 or more per year, say 5%, with typical adjustments for families (ex: an increase of 5% in taxes for a family of four earning $100,000 per year).

Let's compromise, bitches!

 

OK...that's a good opening position (rejected). Let's hear your next idea.

 

What is Elizabeth Warren talking about? When I was starting High School, me and my girl friend had no trouble getting birth control through Planned Parenthood. Talk about easy access and affordability, we were able to cover it by skimming lunch money and never missed a beat. Didn't even have to touch into our allowance. Have things gotten that bad?

 

What's to negotiate? Obamacare passed into law over a year ago. It was voted on, passed and deemed legal by the supreme court. Now that it's going into effect a handful of whinny radicals is holding the country hostage because they don't get their way. There is no negotiating. There is only growing up and doing your job and allowing the budget to go to vote. If its wrong it won't pass, but is not so thats why they are stalling, so they can save face in their own eyes. However,it's dividing their party and exposing what they really stand for. So...what is there to negotiate?

 

OK...the Debt Limit passed into law, too. It was voted on and deemed legal by the Supreme Court. Now that it's going into effect a handful of whinny radicals want to change it to get their way. There's no negotiating. There is only growing up and doing your job.

 

Nobody said they were going to block the raising of the debt ceiling. After all, it's been raised 47 times in the past 30 years.

 

Obama did!

 

So...in your estimation, which laws should we obey and which ones should we ignore?

 

I think the Democrats should indeed go to the negotiating table, and demand that the republicans consider raising taxes, to benefit seniors, children, the disabled, veterans, etc.

If the bitches want to negotiate, lets negotiate.

 

Is the point to raise taxes or revenue?

If it's to raise revenue, what income tax rate do you feel would raise the greatest revenue? After all, a 100% tax rate wouldn't raise much revenue.

...or is the point simply to call anonymous people "bitches"?

 

Obama did not say he'd block raising the debt ceiling. He said they needed to to pay off debt. Maybe you need to watch his speech from yesterday again on a network that didn't edit out the parts they didn't like.