The Realities of U.S. Southern States

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  1. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    In other words, those who have worked for a living.
     
  2. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    No, the takers in society. At least that is how Romney defines them.
     
  3. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Nope. You are still in the snow belt.
     
  4. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You're a taker that already lives down south. I work, you sit there in your depends and take the gubermint checks.
     
  5. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    But my checks represent the moneys I have already paid in. You are taking my tax money.
     
  6. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    So then, it is safe to say you feel a sense of entitlement. The money you paid in is gone. You are receiving current payroll taxes from the checks of the working poor. Which is probably the part that delights your kind the most.
     
  7. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but that is not the way it was set up. My moneys are on account (Ha. Ha.) Point is still the same. I put moneys into the system to cover my "checks". Mr. RB's checks are everyone else's tax money.
     
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  8. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    Lemmie guess, yer from the south?
     
  9. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Actually, not in the least. I happen to live in the South today, but I am from the North.
     
  10. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    Close enough.
     
  11. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    But close only counts in horse shoes, bocce, and grenades.
     
  12. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    In a delusional mind anyone that receives Social Security for example is receiving it from just what "they" paid in.

    In a delusional mind the fact that I now have insurance through ACA I am "taking their money".

    In reality insurance companies are picking up a lot of business and I haven't just run to the doctor with the sniffles because I have insurance now.

    I still have a deductible and until I reach that point it's all coming out of MY pocket.

    Now I expect an asinine response. I'm rarely let down on this here.
     
  13. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Actually, in reality insurance companies have lost at least 2,500,000 customers. So just how are they picking up any business?
     
  14. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P 2 0 2 4

    Sure, demand is increasing from the older-and-more-expensive-to-insure folks, but Aetna is losing money specifically because of that! Losing money is not a sustainable business model. Now, if demand was increasing from young people there would be a larger cashflow and it might be sustainable. But, as we've seen with Obamacare, young people are not signing up as expected.

    Insurance companies can't sustain for very long "picking up a lot of business" from people who take more than they give.

    UPDATE 4-Aetna to lose money on Obamacare exchanges, CEO says

    By Caroline Humer

    Feb 6 (Reuters) - Aetna Inc, the third-largest U.S. health insurer, said on Thursday it expects to lose money on the Obamacare exchanges even as demand for these insurance plans has picked up over the past few weeks.

    President Barack Obama's healthcare reform law, often called Obamacare, created online insurance exchanges where individuals can buy health coverage with income-based government subsidies. The exchanges opened on Oct. 1 to sell plans for coverage effective Jan. 1, but technology issues delayed enrollment for the first few months.

    Chief Executive Officer Mark Bertolini said the demographics of the new members were "a little skewed" toward an older, higher-cost population. He said the financial risks of the business were manageable but that Aetna's 2014 profit outlook was based on losses from the new plans.

    "We expect the business to lose money in the first year," Bertolini told investors during a conference call. He said Aetna had signed up 135,000 paid members through the end of January.

    The company also reported higher fourth-quarter earnings and revenue.

    Aetna, which is operating on the exchanges in 17 states, is considering where it will offer Obamacare plans in 2015, and at what price, as it gathers information on the health of the new members.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/06/aetna-results-idUSL2N0LB0FI20140206
     
  15. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Could you cite a source on that for me?
     
  16. clembo

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    Are they going to "lose money" or "not make as much"?

    A big difference.

    I was discussing this the other day with a friend who is big time Libertarian.

    We agreed the potential for insurance companies is huge.
     
  17. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    The ultimate goal (and, surprisingly, I think moron joe will agree) is to eventually force the insurance companies out of business thus opening the door for a single payer system. The insurance companies will benefit in the short term because the government is, in essence, subsidizing them until the long term details can be put into place.
     
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  18. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Try these!
    http://www.carolinacoastonline.com/...cle_aacfccae-a71e-11e3-9c32-001a4bcf887a.html
    : http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/jack-kelly/2014/03/06/Obamacare-horror-stories-will-catch-up-with-Democrats/stories/201403060305#ixzz2vTYH38kp
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...claiming-all-obamacare-horror-stories-untrue/
     
  19. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You Right-wing pukes are as dumb as a mud fence. I do hope a few of the countless insurers out there do go out of business but not because I dislike insurance companies, but because for the first time in history, competition has finally been entered into the equation. The thing insurers feared most. They now have to compete with each other. That's how the market works and if you are against that, then you can't be for capitalism. Now of course you'll complain that the big bad gubermint is forcing them to compete with each other and thus it is regulation that is the problem. The hallmark of our current health care system has been very expensive inefficiencies and unending duplication of effort as markets were divided among insurers with no real competition. Competition will both drive down costs and improve the product as car insurance companies have done with auto safety. Sorry if this doesn't fit your narrative of me or the Left but this is exactly what Obama has added to the mix. You're just too partisan stupid to realize it.
     
  20. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Loverly competition. Several areas have a grand total of one company supplying the insurance and they can offer 3 plans.
     
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