Obamacare is ruining patient care in hospitals...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    Anecdotal data points, like how many thousand of our troops dead in GW's idiotic response to 911? Let us know when you can hard fact summarize as many people supposedly 'inconvenienced' in their lives, clearly attributable to ACA and which would clearly have been otherwise not. Until then put you head back up your ass and suck.
     
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  2. freshmeat

    freshmeat Can't touch this

    Why do you suppose it is that the uneducated ignorant are always bashing the intelligent educated?
     
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  3. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

  4. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member



    How dare people go to the Emergency room in an Emergency like I did in late October of 2013?

    BEFORE the ACA.


    I was sick. So I had my wife take me to Emergency.

    I spent the first night in Emergency because there were no beds. I spent the second night on the 6th floor and final night on the 5th floor due to lack of beds.


    I'm glad I'm alive. I suppose, in the minds of some, I should be sorry I got sick, had no insurance and no regular physician I could just go to and keep myself healthy. Or was it even my fault?

    I didn't plan on it believe me.


    Remember. This all happened before "Obamacare".
     
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  5. IQless1
    Blah

    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Yikes!

    I'm happy to hear you're OK. :eek:

    Gimme a call sometime....you "Liberal", you. :p
     
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  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Oh where do we start......?

    Firstly, Obamacare was designed to send people to physicians rather than the emergency rooms. That was one of the ways to reduce costs supposedly. Did you miss that piece?

    Secondly, your little story directly contradicts the narrative spewed by the far left & repeated by the likes of moron joe & iqless. According the them, if you didn't have insurance, you didn't have access to any form of healthcare & your only alternative was to die in the street. But that wasn't really the case, was it? You chose to go uninsured but you were still treated, weren't you?

    Thanks!
     
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  7. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Not at all David. I was not feeling well and had no insurance because I just plain couldn't afford it.

    I put my long care health at risk because of this. I just couldn't take it any more so opted for Emergency. Sorry I didn't die for you but if I DID you'd be whining about my not paying my debt when deceased.


    I "chose to" because I couldn't afford it and have worked all my life David.

    Your "Christian compassion" is underwhelming.


    You're welcome
     
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  8. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

  9. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Amen. Or not. Whatever.

    I don't have a problem with people believing in a god or gods*, or in people who don't believe in any god at all*, but I do have a problem with so-called "Christians", or anyone else, who doesn't give a damn about others, and especially those who go out of their way to intentionally harm others when there is no justification for doing so.**


    *as with anything, there are "exceptions to the rule". In this case, someone who believes in harming others in the name of their religion, or just for the "fun" of it, are exceptions to my statement above, for example.

    **Unfortunately, people can "justify" anything they want, but in general the term is used here to denote common sense justification, as with breaking someone's arm when they are stabbing you, versus the typical republican tactic of using the term to suit their reasoning deficiencies (see: Anything Sarah Palin says, for example).
     
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  10. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Mercy sakes, your bleating gets old! Don't you ever give it a rest?
     
  11. IQless1
    Blah

    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    The ACA is a compromise. Insurance companies were not going to support the ACA without certain exclusions. The reason being the insurance companies are for-profit, and the newest cancer treatments are too costly for them to cover, without drastically raising the costs on everyone.

    The goal was to provide reasonable care at a reasonable price to as many people as possible. In that, they succeeded. The more expensive procedures are still reserved for the rich, but the more common services, which were previously unavailable to the poor, are now available to the poor.

    It's by no means perfect, but that is the nature of the compromise.
     
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  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Christian compassion?

    I'd say foregoing insurance coverage (or doing what was needed to have insurance) was a gamble on your part. You knew the potential pitfalls & you chose the easy way out. Furthermore, if you have failed to pay your medical bills, the rest of us will be forced to pick up the tab one way or another. There's my compassion. You're welcome.
     
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  13. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    "The easy way out"...There's a phrase that defines David...as pathetic.
     
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