Well, I would guess, since these drugs are sold as a method to end a pregnancy, it would be the drug maker who considers them life-ending drugs. Or maybe the doctor who is prescribing them to end an pregnancy? Or maybe the patient who is taking them to end a pregancy? Whatta you think?
I think they are most likely drugs like the morning after pill that prevent pregnancy. You didn't list them so who can tell?
Well then where's your side of the story? How about a link or three from among your reliable news sources? Somewhere on NPR seems to be the best rlm can do. So far, you've got nothing.
I never said NPR. I heard it on Fox. But here are a couple others for you. http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/0...war-on-women-talk-in-critique-of-hobby-lobby/ http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/0...war-on-women-talk-in-critique-of-hobby-lobby/ http://patrickborchers.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-hobby-lobby-supreme-court-argument.html
On "Plan B" and Ella http://whqlibdoc.who.int/hq/2010/WHO_RHR_HRP_10.06_eng.pdf?ua=1 http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packag...eption/ICEC_FIGO_MoA_Statement_March_2012.pdf On IUDs http://www.arhp.org/Publications-and-Resources/Patient-Resources/fact-sheets/IUC-Myths http://mydoctor.kaiserpermanente.org/ncal/Images/011061-173_CL_tcm75-14523.pdf And quite a nice article in the National Catholic Reporter, which brings up an interesting point or two. http://ncronline.org/blogs/grace-margins/what-abortifacient-and-what-it-isnt
I'm the one who heard the report on NPR, you dolt. Suppose you tell us how I would supply a link or three from a story on the radio. Huh?
NPR has most of their stuff available in transcripts, go get it for us Or is that beyond your competence?
It seems to be above your competence else you could have gotten it yourself. Apparently my 4 different sources were not enough for you. Well, sorry ..............
Perhaps if you go back and read the thread, or have someone explain it to you, (ask them to take it slow and use tiny words) you would know who I was talking to. But, even so, which one of your sources has the NPR quote in question?
Before you lefties bash Hobby Lobby too much for objecting to being forced by BO to particiapte in the killing of innocent babies, you need to look at some of the things Hobby Lobby gives to it's employees...wages well above minium wage being a big one.
Oh Hobby Lobby, you Christian hypocrites. Hobby Lobby's Hypocrisy: The Company's Retirement Plan Invests in Contraception Manufacturers When Hobby Lobby filed its case against Obamacare's contraception mandate, its retirement plan had more than $73 million invested in funds with stakes in contraception makers. —By Molly Redden | Tue Apr. 1, 2014 3:00 AM PDT Hobby Lobby supporters pray to end abortion outside the US Supreme Court. Jay Mallin/ZUMA When Obamacare compelled businesses to include emergency contraception in employee health care plans, Hobby Lobby, a national chain of craft stores, fought the law all the way to the Supreme Court. The Affordable Care Act's contraception mandate, the company's owners argued, forced them to violate their religious beliefs. But while it was suing the government, Hobby Lobby spent millions of dollars on an employee retirement plan that invested in the manufacturers of the same contraceptive products the firm's owners cite in their lawsuit. Documents filed with the Department of Labor and dated December 2012—three months after the company's owners filed their lawsuit—show that the Hobby Lobby 401(k) employee retirement plan held more than $73 million in mutual funds with investments in companies that produce emergency contraceptive pills, intrauterine devices, and drugs commonly used in abortions. Hobby Lobby makes large matching contributions to this company-sponsored 401(k). Several of the mutual funds in Hobby Lobby's retirement plan have holdings in companies that manufacture the specific drugs and devices that the Green family, which owns Hobby Lobby, is fighting to keep out of Hobby Lobby's health care policies: the emergency contraceptive pills Plan B and Ella, and copper and hormonal intrauterine devices. These companies include Teva Pharmaceutical Industries, which makes Plan B and ParaGard, a copper IUD, and Actavis, which makes a generic version of Plan B and distributes Ella. Other holdings in the mutual funds selected by Hobby Lobby include Pfizer, the maker of Cytotec and Prostin E2, which are used to induce abortions; Bayer, which manufactures the hormonal IUDs Skyla and Mirena; AstraZeneca, which has an Indian subsidiary that manufactures Prostodin, Cerviprime, and Partocin, three drugs commonly used in abortions; and Forest Laboratories, which makes Cervidil, a drug used to induce abortions. Several funds in the Hobby Lobby retirement plan also invested in Aetna and Humana, two health insurance companies that cover surgical abortions, abortion drugs, and emergency contraception in many of the health care policies they sell. In a brief filed with the Supreme Court, the Greens object to covering Plan B, Ella, and IUDs because they claim that these products can prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a woman's uterus—a process the Greens consider abortion. But researchers reject the notion that emergency contraceptive pills prevent implantation the implantation of a fertilized egg. Instead, they work by delaying ovulation or making it harder for sperm to swim to the egg. (Copper IUDs, which are also a form of birth control, can prevent implantation.) The Green's contention that the pills cause abortions is a central pillar of their argument for gutting the contraception mandate. Yet, for years, Hobby Lobby's health insurance plans did cover Plan B and Ella. It was only in 2012, when the Greens considered filing a lawsuit against the Affordable Care Act, that they dropped these drugs from the plan. A website Hobby Lobby set up to answer questions about the Supreme Court case states that its 401(k) plan comes with "a generous company match." In 2012, Hobby Lobby contributed $3.8 million to its employee savings plans, which had 13,400 employee participants at the beginning of that year. The information on Hobby Lobby's 401(k) investments is included in the company's 2013 annual disclosure to the Department of Labor. The records contain a list, dated December 31, 2012, of 24 funds that were included in its employer-sponsored retirement plan. MorningStar, an investment research firm, provided Mother Jones with the names of the companies in nine of those funds as of December 31, 2012. Each fund's portfolio consists of at least dozens if not hundreds of different holdings. All nine funds—which have assets of $73 million, or three-quarters of the Hobby Lobby retirement plan's total assets—contained holdings that clashed with the Greens' stated religious principles. Hobby Lobby and the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, the conservative group that provided Hobby Lobby with legal representation, did not respond to questions about these investments or whether Hobby Lobby has changed its retirement plan. In their Supreme Court complaint, Hobby Lobby's owners chronicle the many ways in which they avoid entanglements with objectionable companies. Hobby Lobby stores do not sell shot glasses, for example, and the Greens decline requests from beer distributors to back-haul beer on Hobby Lobby trucks. Similar options exist for companies that want to practice what's sometimes called faith-based investing. To avoid supporting companies that manufacture abortion drugs—or products such as alcohol or pornography—religious investors can turn to a cottage industry of mutual funds that screen out stocks that religious people might consider morally objectionable. The Timothy Plan and the Ave Maria Fund, for example, screen for companies that manufacture abortion drugs, support Planned Parenthood, or engage in embryonic stem cell research. Dan Hardt, a Kentucky financial planner who specializes in faith-based investing, says the performances of these funds are about the same as if they had not been screened. But Hobby Lobby's managers either were not aware of these options or chose not to invest in them. http://www.motherjones.com/politics...rgency-contraception-and-abortion-drug-makers
And Jesus said unto his flock, "Thou shalt not commit any sin...unless there there is a profit to be made". Yeah, I remember that verse in the bible. Why do you think they called him a prophet? Coincidence? I don't think so.
Thank you! You've actually helped the argument in favor of Hobby Lobby's stance! They aren't such an evil corporation trying to force their morality on it's employees, afterall, are they? In fact, they seem to offer their employees options without regard to their own beliefs...they just don't want the gov't mandating that they provide or pay for services that violate their religious beliefs!
