The "Government" was removing Bundy's cattle from federal land not attempting to collect money. If the "Government" intended to round up the cattle to then sell them to pay Bundy's debt, which I have not heard that to be the case, it would take them a long, long time to collect that many cattle to equal a million dollars. The IRS has nothing to do with this situation. It has to do with fees Bundy is refusing to pay. Why don't we compare apples to apples and say that any other rancher not paying his grazing fees that is as overtly anti-Federal Government as Bundy should be approached with a well-armed response. 12 guys with guns is hardly an overwhelming Federal Government response considering the rhetoric from Bundy and the 1,000 well-armed "protesters" that showed up. If anything, the BLM should have showed up with the national guard to prevent violence or at least take down these flaky militia types if they decide to start shooting which they have on multiple occasions.
I have not seen anything about "armored assault vehicles," except on fringe sites. There were a lot of BLM pickups, but they are definitely not "armored assault vehicles." There was one SWAT wagon from the Las Vegas Police Department, but even that is not really an "armored assault vehicle." This is what an armored assault vehicle looks like. The only "evidence" we've seen in this thread for the presence of an "armored assault vehicle" was a bogus stock photo of Blackwater operatives and their vehicle in Iraq, which you posted. So now, feel free to post something which supports your repeated use of the term. Or not.
And what question was that? **Sending in armored assault vehicles & para-military agents over a grazing dispute...and running the risk of escalating tensions & loss of live...is too extreme!
Harry Reid said Bundy "doesn't pay his taxes". Now, I don't know if you want to call what Bundy owes "taxes" or "fees" or "liabilities" or "payments" or "money" or "debits" or "quatloos" or whatever else, but Harry Reid calls it "taxes". So, what do you want to call it? http://therightscoop.com/harry-reid...pporters-domestic-violent-terrorist-wannabes/
He owes "money due" and should pay interest. His problem. Not mine. Get a different job and deal with reality dude. Work your way out of that hole. Isn't that how it works so easily according to my right wing friends?
At the point of a gun? Well, thankfully, you mustn't owe any back taxes. Otherwise, the feds will send the (insert name of jack-booted thug agency here) to collect. According to my left-wing friends, we should all pitch in and pay this guy's taxes. How much can I put you down for?
As I pointed out and you conveniently ignored, nobody was there to collect money at the point of a gun. This is a stupid Right wing narrative that has zero basis in reality so of course you spew it. Probably because you're from Oklahoma. They were there to remove the cattle from public land. Please try to use actual facts not Right wing fantasies that give you a tickle down there. They did not confront anybody, they were confronted by the well-armed "protesters". If they had gone collecting money, they probably would have showed up at his ranch.
Collecting money or rounding up cattle until the money is collected... what difference does it make at this point? View attachment 2481
"If you don't agree with the government, you can't point a gun at it and threaten it until you get what you want.”
This guy wasn't listening either: View attachment 2484 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-capitals-with-guns-in-usa-today-is-this-him/
OK, maybe the Occupy idiots were a bad example. How about these guys, though? They pointed a gun at their government until they got what they wanted: View attachment 2485
Oops! Bundy just another Right wingnut liar it appears. Local TV Station Sheds Doubt On Bundy's Claims About His Family Ranch AP Photo / John Locher Tom Kludt – April 22, 2014, 11:45 AM EDT9576 Cliven Bundy has trumpeted his "ancestral rights" in his land-use dispute with the federal government, but a report on Monday from a Nevada television station placed doubt on the defiant rancher's claims. KLAS in Las Vegas obtained property records showing that Bundy's parents purchased the family's ranch in 1948. The Bunkerville, Nev. ranch has been the site of a tense standoff with the federal government over Bundy's use of land managed by the Bureau of Land Management. Those records appear to contradict Bundy's own history of the ranch, as well as his biography. "I've lived my lifetime here. My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley here ever since 1877. All these rights that I claim, have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and the water and the access and range improvements," Bundy told KLAS before the government's round up began. The standoff has made Bundy a hero among conservatives like Sean Hannity. Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore (R), who is showing solidarity with Bundy and the armed militias supporting him, said Friday that the federal government shouldn't "come here with guns and expect the American people not to fire back." Bundy said that his rights predate the formation of the Bureau of Land Management, and he has refused to pay more than $1 million in cattle grazing fees. "My rights are before the BLM even existed, but my rights are created by beneficial use. Beneficial use means we created the forage and the water from the time the very first pioneers come here," Bundy said. But court records obtained by KLAS indicated the family's cattle didn't begin grazing the land until 1954. The Bureau of Land Management was created in 1946 (the same year Cliven Bundy was born.)
I never said he owed taxes did I Coin? Let me answer that. NO I didn't but you construed it that way for some idiotic reason. I didn't because I don't know any better than you do (owing taxes) and that's NOT the issue to me. He DOES owe money. Money that other ranchers have diligently paid. It may well be a damn shame that the BLM didn't exist when his family started ranching. IF that's true. Unfortunately it does, it has, and he seems to think he's the only one in his particular dilemma. I'd say this is a "publicity stunt" construed by a moron. He wouldn't be the moron though. That title would more likely fall on those that buy into his load of crap. Mr. Bundy. Pay up. Shut up and if you have to find another line of employment go find that job. Seems you've been digging your own hole for quite some time.
Turns out that the Bundy family bought Bundy's 160 acre ranch in 1948, when Bundy was two, and have been running their cattle on it and on leased BLM land since 1954. Yet Bundy asserts his right based on ancestral use and "improvement" of this land dating back to 1877. It kind of looks like Tea Bagger math to me. http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25302186/an-abbreviated-look-at-rancher-cliven-bundys-family-history http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25301551/bundys-ancestral-rights-come-under-scrutin
Harry Reid, for some idiotic reason, is saying that Bundy hasn't paid his taxes. Now, if we're going to go by what Harry Reid has been saying, then the example I used with the IRS is perfectly valid. You DO understand examples, right?
