So what's the feeling on Vance?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by GeneWright, Jul 17, 2024.

  1. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    IF...YOU .......DON'T.....VOTE....FOR....ME.....YOU....AINT......BLACK.
     
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  2. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I am very frustrated this evening!
    I am stuck on a page in my "DECORATE ME CRAYON BOOK".
    I have the 126 choices box, and have tried EVERY ONE OF THEM.

    The instructions for this page state:

    "COLOR ME DEPLORABLE PERSONALITY"

    I am mad as hell!!!

    None of the pieces is labeled "DEPLORABLE".

    Can somebody tell me what shade to use, or combination of shades?
     
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  3. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Deplorable?? Well that’s red last I recall…
     
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  4. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    It's a trick by the Crayon box to make you think someone is automatically deplorable based on a color.

    Trust me, there are no colors whatsoever in that box that equate to DEPLORABLE.

    However, if one of those crayons suddenly starts yelling at the other crayons to pay for their student loans, their food, their healthcare, etc. or if the crayon wants reparations for crayons that were used from previous boxes, THOSE are the deplorable crayons.
     
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  5. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

     
  6. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism


    C'mon, @charley . . . Don'tcha know
    white is all of the colors in the spectrum?

    If you use white, yer guaranteed to
    hit the deplorable button!
    .
     
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  7. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Kind of, it is a popularity contest after all. I more mean that it's possible for Dems to move on to the next person with relative ease. Whereas I'm not sure what the GOP will do once Trump passes away. He basically is the party at this point. If Trump loses this election, I fully expect him to restart his campaign for 2028.

    Nah, even if fundamental transformation was the goal rather than improving things somewhat, it doesn't equate. Is a caterpillar facing doom when it turns to a butterfly? Is a canvas destroyed when it's made into a painting? I just mean to say change isn't inherently bad.
     
  8. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    DEPLORABLE!!!
     
  9. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    I'm very surprised at that remark, Gene.

    Flip it around and reconsider . . . is a flying caterpillar no longer able to fly if transformed into a caterpillar? Is a painting destroyed when turned into a blank canvas?

    Yanking from the ground our capitalistic roots, so central to the soul of this nation, is tantamount to intentionally destroying a tree.

    My instincts tell me that if you progressives take this too far, the opposition will be unimaginable.
     
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  10. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    I guess I'm just a glass half full kind of guy who doesn't see the most minor of attempts to make things better as "Yanking from the ground our capitalistic roots"

    I'm more interested in outcomes and measurables. I can't say for sure what will work, but I can see what has worked well for other nations, and what clearly isn't working in the U.S.

    To frame any type of change as a harbinger of doom is a bit dramatic, don't you think?
     
  11. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    No moreso than progressives stating that an unproven change should be implemented across the board based on "knowing it will work", without having demonstrated it on a smaller scale over a meaningful period of time. You, better than most others understand the importance of Design of Experiments, and drawing conclusions therefrom.
     
  12. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    First off, there's not really that many "across the board" policies being proposed. Do I wish things were more sweeping? Absolutely, but we don't have to pretend they're acting as unilateral radicals in there. We delivered Biden the White House, Senate, and House for his 2 years, and look how little he did with it.

    Second, I don't think it's wrong to draw on the experiences of policy in other countries as maps towards what could work in the U.S. so it is tested. It won't scale perfectly with every policy, but it can provide good roadmaps and expectation benchmarks.
     
  13. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Complete BS.
    • Radical importation of un-screened immigrants
    • Premature conversion from fossil-fuels to electric vehicles
    • Promoting DEI policies over merit-based selection
    • Leniency toward criminals and violent activists
    • Bailing out students trying to walk away from debts they incurred

    We can thank our staunch defenders of conservative values for that!


    It isn't tested in our domain. To say something was a success under other conditions doesn't allow the same conclusion to be drawn for its performance in our environment. Again . . . disingenuous . . . you know better than to do that, Junior!
     
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  14. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Well no….. I am old enough to remember when Venezuela was the shining diamond of South America.

    Edit…. Oddly as I recall their national downfall began with price controls.
     
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  15. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I am arranging (scheming and ripping off The People), with a couple of lawyers and accountants and illegal alien transport managers to set up my Corporation, to be able to process applications for $25,000.00 Down Payment each on a home for 1st generation new home buyers, a free gift from The People, that is going to be available when the DEMOCRAT VPOTUS WANABEE POTUS signs the Executive Order.

    I figure I will start with purchasing (after "arranging for sweetheart deals with the local politicians to sell to me for 1/2 cent on the $) the Baltimore abandoned housing slums and the NYC slums and the Philly slums, and selling them all to the 1st generation new homebuyers.

    I am a strong proponent of being prepared to take advantage of emerging opportunities the Government funds.

    But I also believe in the United States Of America, and want to help the brand new 1st Generation illegal aliens get their piece of the American Pie.

    That is just the kind of Patriotic guy I am.

    However, to make the numbers work, I figure I have to arrange with the illegal alien transporters to agree to a price of $5,000.00 per busload of 30 each of illegal alien 1st generation homebuyers, instead of the usual $5,000.00 for each illegal alien.

    That will generate a gross profit of $750,000 per busload, after subtracting costs of $3,566.67 per illegal alien.

    The initial illegal alien transport manager Contract will be 100 busloads. This will be a total of $75,000,000 per Contract (3,000 total illegal aliens). (Yes....I did the math).

    This will generate sufficient capital to expand to 6 million illegal alien potential 1st generation homebuyers per year.

    Now, the real problem that needs to be solved: a sufficient quantity of slum houses to supply 6 million illegal aliens per year, year over year.

    It has been suggested that I consult with the Democrat DNC fund raising Team, and maybe a long term legislation program that confiscates U.S. Legal resident property owner Holdings and condemns it and transfers the confiscated property to my corporation is possible.

    The donation amount per illegal alien 1st generation buyers has to be arranged by the DNC of course, but I am informed that should be a very manageable amount.

    The DNC envisions a long term transformation of the present government, toward a model along the lines of Marx and Lenin, but they first have to work out an agreement on the types of enforcement persuasion tools that will be necessary to "manage" the long term plan, because the internal DNC difficulty will be convincing members that Assault weapons and Cages will be OK and utilized in a compassionate manner.

    What do you guys think? Any holes that I need to consider before proceeding?
     
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  16. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    None that I can see. But if you ever need a position as director of business…….
     
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  17. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Ehh, depends how you measure it. Most illegal immigration these days is done via plane (overstaying visas) which is why the border wall initiative has always seemed so dumb.

    What do you mean? We're falling behind the rest of the world if anything. It's hard to make a case we're going too fast

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    Not measurable, vague culture war platitude. Next.

    Crime is down, substantially. What more do you want?

    Never happened, extremely minor efforts got through that were aimed at the most vulnerable. The only actual new forgiveness that happened was for those defrauded by technical colleges and the like that lost accreditation and went out of business, making their degrees worthless.

    I specifically said it wouldn't scale perfectly. That's true of any test. What works in Montana may not scale perfectly to the rest of the U.S. either, that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to learn from successes there. You cede a competitive advantage when you don't even attempt to learn from successes abroad.
     
  18. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

  19. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    I'd venture most of those forgot to extend before expiration of their visas, and renewed once they realized what happened. Moreover, I'm sure many of those are repetitious overstays, counted more than once by opportunistic liberal government employees. Care to prove me wrong?


    We trail a mere 6 nations . . . not most of the world.


    Yeah, so let's flip it back and return to the platitudes being yours instead.


    Crime is not down . . . it goes unreported far more than ever because police can no longer keep up, and because the public no longer believes many of the criminals will be punished. It's on the news every day . . . stop ignoring it.


    We were talking about what progressives are trying to do, not what they've succeeded at, or did you forget?


    Evasive reply . . . What works in Montana and not across the US is analogous to what works in Sweden may not work in the US.

    I've never said we shouldn't embrace changes. We should carefully evaluate the efficacy of proposed changes, especially within the American framework . . . not pounce upon them with such reckless abandon!
     
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  20. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    Well.....big deal.

    I am old enough to have heard "On The Radio" (good song-catchy) when the DOMINO THEORY was "explained".

    By a beloved Democrat.

    How does everybody think that worked out, BTW?

    Who'd a thunk?

    Truth in editing: I wanted to be a little clever with the radio thing.
     
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