Charlie Kirk

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CoinOKC, Sep 11, 2025.

  1. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    I'm having trouble seeing how the roomate is in the wrong here.

    "Robinson: delete this exchange."

    *proceeds to not delete the exchange, keep the note, and turn everything in to law enforcement while only expressing concern and shock over the murder*
     
  2. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    I repeat, the real offender here is members of the Democrat Party at large, numbering in the millions, who promote the acceptability of violence against conservatives.

    Twiggs is one of those and, while the foregoing dialogue fails to reveal it, I suspect there were other conversations between he and Robinson over the prior year during which he convinced Robinson, overtly or implicitly, that killing a prominent conservative or Christian would be a good thing for one or both of them.

    What more does it take for the misguided to materialize their fantasies than validation coming from others? Especially from those held closest in one's life?

    Again, I’m not trying to connect this murder to a transsexual . . . I’m connecting it to the hateful, intolerant way that liberals conduct themselves. Lance Twiggs happens to be one of those. My guess is that online research will eventually uncover more than he cares us to see.
     
  3. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    I don't think that number is "in the millions." I do however believe Fox News wants you to think that. Consent manufacturing machine go brrrrrrrrr
     
  4. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

  5. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure that's a great survey... it also concluded that 1 in 5 leaning right of center believe assassination of Trump in particular is acceptable.

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    Furthermore, it's for the whole population, not just young people. A later regression analysis in the link even showed that this belief was poorly correlated with age.

    It was also poorly correlated with party affiliation.
     
  6. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Jesus Christ!

    Why the hell is an American Citizen, particularly Forum members, actually discussing percentages of U.S. Citizens that maybe think ASASSINATION OF ANYONE IS SOMEHOW ACCEPTABLE AND THE SUBJECT HAS MERIT OF JUSTIFICATION CONSIDERATION?

    Mopar is right....The People have lost their way and their moral compass.

    Every educational establishment should be required to study the Constitution in depth.

    17 September happens to be CONSTITUTION DAY, BTW.

    THINK ABOUT THE MORAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL IMPLICATIONS OF SUCH A POLL IN SOCIETY.

    Free Speech? Hateful Speech? Both are legally protected by the Constitution. Debate is good. Finding common ground should always be the goal.

    When Free Speech is DELIBERATELY used AND INTENDED to incite violence, it crosses the proverbial legal line.

    This "Poll" does not in even the most remote interpretation, violate any Free Speech Constitutional Protection.

    I am referring to the moral impact on society of ANYONE somehow justifying Assassination as an answer to silencing the Constitutionally protected Free Speech of another person. Free Speech is the very Core of our Constitution.

    This was not a military operation or legal operation under the laws of the United States of America.

    It is a deliberate defiance of the Constitution, intended to incite violence.

    I can not think of a more heinous assault on the Constitution of the United States Of America.

    I weep. Yes...weep.
     
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  7. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    It appears that this maggot's sudden turn from being an intelligent, top high school student and scholarship recipient to being brainwashed by leftist ideology and gaining a 'pro-gay and trans rights' attitude led him to murder. Just sayin'.

    Mom of Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin describes radical shift in last year: 'More pro-gay and trans rights'

    Tyler Robinson went from scholarship recipient to alleged killer after becoming 'more political' and lurching left, mom says

    September 17, 2025

    OREM, Utah — Tyler Robinson’s mother told investigators she had watched her son change dramatically in the year leading up to the Utah college shooting of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk.

    Once a college scholarship recipient with a promising future, Robinson had "become more political," leaning left and supporting "pro-gay and trans rights," his mother said, according to court documents.

    She also recounted heated arguments between Robinson and his father, who held sharply different views and regularly sparred over their competing ideologies.

    At one point, she told police, her son dismissed Kirk’s Utah Valley University (UVU) event as a "stupid" venue and claimed Kirk "spreads too much hate."

    Prosecutors now argue that political hatred was at the core of Robinson’s alleged actions.

    In court filings, they allege he intentionally targeted Kirk "because of his political expression" — and his parents recognized him from surveillance video after the shooting.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/mom-char...cal-shift-last-year-more-pro-gay-trans-rights
     
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  8. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Thank you. This alone bears repeating….. Time and again.
     
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  9. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Not to sidetrack, but I doubt Robinson could've thrown a knife that accurately... just sayin
     
  10. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Again, with the Deflection.

    I do not care if a person has political/social beliefs and vehemently voices those beliefs, or whether or not someone-family member or not opines that a person has, in their opinion, displayed a radical change in their ideological belief.

    I DO care that the person acts out their ideological disgruntlement and anger and does so, with intent to act upon the disgruntlement in a violent manner, by killing another person, harming another person or destroying the property of others or deliberately and with intent inciting others to do so.

    What the hell does it matter if the person uses a gun or rifle or knife or fire or chemicals, etc. to do so?

    Humans are blessed with the ability to control their actions and choose their reactions and response to that which the person disagrees with.

    Such a person that does so, MUST be prosecuted to the full extent allowed by Law.

    Onto the sexual choices a person makes: I don't care if the person is Gay, Transsexual, or not.

    I DO care when the motives of the person are rooted in their personal sexual choices when the person resorts to violence and curtailment of Free Speech of another person or the property of another person.

    YES, I WANT TO KNOW THE ROOT CAUSE. LAW ENFORCEMENT AND EVERY CITIZEN SHOULD WANT TO KNOW, FOR THE BASIC REASON THAT IT EFFECTS THE DECISON OF THE PROPER LEVEL OF PUNISHMENT THAT WILL BE DECIDED BY A JURY- YOU AND I - AND OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM, BECAUSE IF THE CRIME WAS COMMITED WITH HATE AS THE CATYLIST, THE LEVEL OF PROPER PUNISHMENT IS SUBJECT TO A MORE STRINGENT SENTENCE FOR PUNISHMENT. WE HOLD THE POWER OF DECIDING LIFE OR DEATH IN SUCH MATTERS.

    All this bullshit deflection SEX, WEAPON, POLITICAL BELIEFS, IS JUST THAT...Deflection.

    I have always remembered, since I was 18, what was drilled into me at Mackall:

    Guns don't kill People; people kill people, so you make the decision to use the tool we are teaching you to use, and do so in strict accordance with your Oath.

    For disclosure, I have not owned or possessed a weapon since I left the Armed Forces.

    For further disclosure, I believe every person, regardless of biological gender or beliefs, should be required to serve 2 years in the Armed Forces, upon reaching the age of 18 or thereafter.
     
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  11. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Reminded me of a very important lesson. I was kindergarten age when a cop saw me shooting my slingshot at streetlights. He loaded me up and carried me to my mom who tore my backside up so hard that I can remember it clearly sixty years later. To this day I get shivers down my back if I even think I may have damaged another persons property.

    Now here we had the so called “summer of love” where all rules of etiquette were thrown out the window. We watched on live TV while vagrants toppled statues erected by previous generations and burned peoples businesses to the ground…. And we allowed it….. That was the real beginning of this insanity…… Hell, if we can tear up whatever we want without compunction, then surely we can murder without compunction, right???
     
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  12. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    No, it did not. The score of 1 on a scale of 1-7 was omitted from the bar graphs you chose to post because those selecting 1 did not believe murder was at all justified. Filtering the results and showing only the graphs you did understates the sentiments of those unwilling to exercise violence to enact political change. The real, representative results are shown below:

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    I don't believe I said anything of age. Still, since the responses were poorly correlated with age, we can reasonably assume that the distribution of sentiments of young liberals is not unlike that of liberals from all other generations. I repeat, the real offender here is members of the Democrat Party at large, numbering in the millions, who promote the acceptability of violence against conservatives.


    This is admittedly simplistic, but please indulge me . . .

    Assuming Democrats and Republicans are equal in number, the metrics in the representative plots tell a different story . . .

    68.4 + (68.4 - 49.8) = 87% of Republicans view murder of Musk as unacceptable, in contrast with only 49.8% of Democrats.

    61.5 + (61.5 - 44) = 78% of Republicans view murder of Trump as unacceptable, in contrast with only 44% of Democrats.

    I daresay the exclusion of those selecting 1 on the scale of 1-7 severely skews the results . . . so much for honest statistics.[/QUOTE]
     
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  13. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Mr. toughcoins, why bother? It encourages Deflection of the crime, and silently encourages continuance of the validity of the crime as a valid response to it.. THAT Deflection is the purpose and Goal of Wright, in the majority of his Posts/commentary.
     
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  14. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Not to sidetrack your sidetrack, but this maggot was determined to kill whether he used a gun, knife, car, hammer, poison or pushing Charlie off a bridge. Just sayin’.

    Obviously, he bought into the violent rhetoric being spewed by the Left and the instrument of death was simply a technicality.
     
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  15. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    No question about that. I read one of his communications somewhere that the puke was terrified that his granddad would discover that he heisted his granddads rifle to do this deed…… Man if that doesn’t paint a clear picture of this pukes mental state.
     
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  16. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Yep, that’s true. To think that this maggot was about to commit murder, but was afraid his grandad would be upset because he stole his rifle. That really tells me all I need to know about this violent Leftist.
     
  17. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    You can't conclude that without also looking at the right of center breakdown.

    I was pulling from here:

    Your problem with the final part is that you're conflating indentifying as left of center with self-identifying as "Democrat" and identifying as right of center as "Republican"

    When you use those who identify as "Democrat" or "Republican" it correlates poorly

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  18. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Dumbass Jimmy Kimmel’s late night show has been pulled off the air “indefinitely” after he made insensitive comments regarding the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

    Good.
     
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  19. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    See my Point, Mr. toughcoins?

    Willful deliberate Deflection for no other purpose but lookatme.

    Wright is a very happy person, because he has succeeded in engaging YOU with the use of BS Misdirection, that has not one valid reason to discuss and debate, in the context of the actions of a remorseless Killer AND COWARD WHO WAS VERY COGNIZANT HE WAS COMMITING THE CRIME OF MURDER, AND SANE AND DELIBERATE IN HIS ACTIONS, AND THEN WANTED TO TRAVEL TO A REMOTE SECTION OF UTAH TO KILL HIMSELF BECAUSE HE "CAN'T GO TO JAIL"

    Jesus Christ! You want to, in posting commentary, argue about Charts and the interpretation of same with Wright?

    I am quite surprised that you would do so.
     
  20. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    I haven’t watched a second of football today. Man I am so riveted by this service…. No, this revival for Charlie Kirk…. Tuckers words will long reverberate with me….. “History has shown that every attempt to extinguish the light of truth has only made that light brighter”…… Well said. Very, very well said. Anyone that doubts those words should study the history of Rome. A true testament to the light extinguishing the debauchery of self important men.
     
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