An open letter to the Republican leadership...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Midas, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Dear Republican leadership...

    Simply put…you blew it! You had the chance to implement real change in Washington back in 1994 when you took control of Congress and you had total control from 2000 to 2006 so what happened? You tried to be “nice” and reach out to Democrats. Did Democrats reach back? No…they slapped you in the face and never waived from their core beliefs! Now, against all logic and rational, the most unqualified person who ever ran for President and most liberal person in the U.S. Senate is now Commander-in-Chief. Unbelievable!

    You bailed on us Reagan-Goldwater conservatives who elected you. You bailed on principles of fiscal conservatism. Heck, you legislated and spent more tax dollars than even Bill Clinton! You turned your back on Americans who real believe in less government, a real and secure border, a choice for where we send our kids to school, and a choice where our social security tax dollars end up. You failed to remind Americans that we are fighting against an enemy that doesn’t have "surrender" in their vocabulary. Face it…you let Democrats walk all over you and you didn’t fight back.

    Your message of “less taxes” fell short. Shoot, I would have stated, “The top 50% of all wage earners in this country already pay over 97% of all taxes collected, how much MORE do Democrats want?” (Source: IRS) You failed to remind the electorate that when Kennedy, Reagan and Bush II cut marginal tax rates, what happened? Tax revenue coming into the treasury dramatically INCREASED! Sure, Democrats would have cried about the deficit, but remember, the government does not have to spend all of this new found revenue simply because they have it! You forgot to remind voters that you cannot tax and spend yourself into prosperity. You forgot to say that in order to have employees, you have to have employers first! You should have reminded Americans what Lincoln said, “You cannot make the poor rich by making the rich poor.”

    Now, our country is headed into deeper socialism with government in every aspect of our lives. Even Kennedy who stated, “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country,” is falling on deaf ears as voters clearly stated on Tuesday, “Don’t ask your country, DEMAND your country take care of you.”

    Now…will a “real” Reagan-Goldwater conservative stand up and fight…or is it time for a real 3rd party?
     
  2. craig a

    craig a New Member

    And yet you continued to vote for them? So whos really to blame?
     
  3. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member


    Bingo! An open letter is not the kind of message they understand. Defeat is.
     
  4. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    Well said Midas.

    Remember, the Carter years brought us a solidified party and Ronald Reagan. Conservatism is not dead, it is in exile.
     
  5. Midas

    Midas New Member

    I remember the Carter years quite well. I graduated from college and I bought my first car...a Toyota Tercel (it got 38 mpg) and I financed it over 36 months at 19.25% interest!

    Hopefully, this is the slap in the face Repbublicans need. They should have learned NEVER to try to work with socialist liberals who never backed down from their positions. McCaain tried to court independents and liberals and he still only got 20% of these people while many conservatives were so ticked off and stayed away.
     
  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    But Carter was just an idiot....Obama is an idiot with a cult following. Carter didn't have any skeletons in his closet, Obama's is teeming over & they don't care.
     
  7. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    This is not a good lesson and this is different from the message prior. McCain was the kind of candidate they needed and will need in the future. If they left him alone he'd had a better chance of winning.

    That being said, a Rudy, MCcain ticket would have had a much much better chance of winning. Guliiani would have shredded through Obama in a way that MCcain doesn't really have the stomach for. When your facing an opponent who has a 97% following of a major constituency built in due to racism you must take the gloves off. You have to show your teeth and disgust of their policies. You need to take a lot of angry thunder because racists and socialists don't like to dragged into the fire and fight back dirty when you expose them.

    MCcain needed to lead the Republicans. Instead the Republicans lead him wasting effort on abortion and Religion when the big fish has escaped.

    Ruben
     
  8. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    Ruben
    I am stunned and amazed. We agree.
    On most of it.
     
  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I wrote this right on my website...front page

    Ruben
     
  10. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Actually Carter was a very smart guy. But you know that. And if that plan to free the hostages wouldve worked; a second term was a sure thing. And dont start anything with that, pal. I lost a good friend in that sand storm.
     
  11. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I am not sure anything they did would have given any different results. The Democrats were awarded the White House before they even had a candidate - with some reason assisted by the current administration and definitely bolstered by the press. IMHO, those facts would have been nigh impossible to overcome, and then you had the current economic crises. Whether or not you believe it is the Republicans' fault, the majority of the people believed the only story presented by the press that the Republicans were to blame. I figure that he had 4 strikes before he even got to bat.

    All in all, I am surprised that he did as well as he did. Oh! And just to rub salt in the wounds, the press is now playing "let's kill Palin". They are going to get her impeached for being a Republican female before it is over.
     
  12. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I forgot to mention his lie about accepting public funds so he could outspend McCain 3:1.
     
  13. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."


    Oh man Ruben. This is the exact statment that will keep people from ever wanting to go back to the party!! I heard that exit polls showed that a large chunk of (real) conservatives voted Obama!! Because we couldn't afford to win this election with McCain!!

    Now that the election is over, these fools are leaking information about Palin, attacking her personally, and trying to make her the scape goat. McCain won't defend her now.

    Schumer's asking if they can have the "old" McCain back again, ALREADY. The one who sides with the dems most of the time. LOL!! Intelligent people saw the writing on the wall all along. Before the primaries they saw it, last year. Notice I said "intelligent" people.

    The republican party now will not only have to overcome Obama, but also the moderate poison within their own party. If you are one of them, I suggest you change sides.

    It's so ridiculous that I've heard several young people say that McCain was too conservative. LOL!!!! Read my sig line.

    They need a Ron Paul. Not another McCain.
     
  14. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    Like YOU...I GET it now...It must be lonely way up there on that pedestal!!

    I agree...we need Ron Paul..out of the Republican party where he belongs...

    And I also agree...screw the moderate republicans...You guys need to go as FAR right as you can get and alienate everyone but the fringes and never elect another president...;) You DO see things so clearly...you should be a republican strategist...I bet the dems would love to help you with that brilliant plan :)
     
  15. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    The Republican Party needs a good dose of Libertarian back in it. Small government, fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility and freedoms. Dump this fear, terror, nation building, religious fractionalism.
     
  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    No your wrong but every power grabbing democrat with a corrupt political machine is hoping you keep say such stupid things.

    You realize your as crazy as the Toad, right?

    Ruben
     
  17. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    I would vote republican in a second if this happened. I dont want a lot of religion in my political party...I have no problem if they are religious and even like to do a prayer here and there as long as it isnt a driving force. I want the government to first show fiscal responsibility and have a real balance between incoming and outgoing...so as not to further the debt spending...then look to see where money is leaving this nation in the forms of grants and loan issued in deficit... and why...then go from there to domestic spending. I want personal freedoms and want people to pull their weight...and most of all I dont want to nation build...Afghanistan was a priority, and any nation who aides them, but large chunks of our taxes are being paid to Iraq. I voted for Bush because of that last one.

    Some people here I have seen observe that Americans arent willing to suffer for the war...well, tally the amount of tax money this war in Iraq has cost us from start to finish and for many years to come. I honestly believe we will receive oil benefits from this action but to date it is a terrible financial strain. So maybe this is the suffering some people were talking about. A nation at war, sharply divided populace, financial problems caused by a variety of things, problems with foreign affairs, as always having to address the problem of dictators and extremist of all types. I, and many others, have family who are at war and have been for some time.

    Is it me? Or was it at one time that the Republicans were the real party for social change, small government, progressive, government out of our lives (and not just for guns and god). Did big republican government START with President Ronald Reagan ?

    I will be totally honest when I say I think that having a black president is a bit of a milestone, simply given history...but I dont know if Obama is the man who deserved that honor. I guess I will have to wait and see what he does.

    All the same he mobilized a lot of people, with such monetary resources he should have trounced McCain, the size of his win is a testament to what a poor candidate he was in the end.

    I wont fault him for getting everyone he could to vote, regardless of how uninformed the person is...I just wont fault getting people to pay attention...maybe next time they will know more, and next time even more. As they get older they may regret fawning all over this guy, we all have to start somewhere.

    I dont think he will destroy this nation...at the worst he will have two years of vetos and doing nothing good until people might stray in their choice for congress, and two more till he can be voted out. He made a lot of promises I feel he cant keep...I felt the same when someone I greatly admired as a young man turned out to be a crook, saying one thing and doing another...once those people get jaded and realize Obama is politican not a saviour...people will start looking around :)
     
  18. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    I have troops over in Iraq right now and my nephew will be in Afghanistan again soon. I have carried my fair share of broken people from helicopters into the hospital. War is not pretty but Afghanistan was a necessity. No doubt in my mind. The proper response was great vengeance and furious anger.

    I have similar feelings to what you posted about our new President. And, I too think our country is more than strong enough to survive regardless of my reservations at this point about what kind of President he will be. If he is good, more power to him, and congratulations to us. If he is not, I have plenty of faith that he won't last more than one probably ineffective term. We are pretty self-correcting.

    I am far from writing him off, though. It will take a lot to make me a fan but I am willing to see what happens and not ready to condemn him after -75 days in office. ;)
     
  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    The Whining Sore Loser Thread

    My, my, my gentlemen, the whining is deafening in this little backwater pond. Waaaaaaaa! You had 8 solid years to start all the wars you wanted to start, push your smaller government agenda, and line the pockets of the wealthy...Oh well, one out of two isn't so bad. [​IMG]

    Now that we are in the worst financial situation this country as ever been in, we have two wars with no end in sight, and we are more divided than at any other time since the civil war, you boys want to lament that the party that brought us here lost to someone you can't abide by.

    Do you know why I come back here once in awhile? I figure out what you all are against so I know what to be for. [​IMG]

    It is also so funny to watch you guys cluelessly spouting off about that which you can not understand and never will. Someday maybe you'll figure it out but more likely you'll continue to go through life lost with less and less allies until you end up dying alone while your relatives divide up that which is most important to you. [​IMG][​IMG] And I don't mean coins.
     
  20. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."


    No, sorry, don't realize it. I deal in reality. Most of you don't. What about the Regan in 84? 525 electoral votes. That's a real landslide. Not Obama's win.

    So you think we need to run another McCain ticket!? That was a proven failure. McCain's a democrat through and through. Nobody wanted that. He lost because of it. The base wasn't behind him. No way in hell they were. Palin wasn't enough. It will never work and hopefully they will come back around next time.

    Obama is hands down, known fact, THEE most liberal senator there was to be had. Left of everyone else. He is as far to the extreme left as is available right now. This should have never won in this country. But most people are too stupid to realize it or too focused on their hand out.
     

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