Obama wants Muslim Chief Of Staff!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Stu Joe, Nov 5, 2008.

  1. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

  2. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."

    Ahh yes. First time I've seen his name on something other than as a sponsor on a gun ban bill in Illinois. Excellent choice.
     
  3. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    Oh he is very liberal and partisan. No doubt.

    But, I think at least one person on this board was probably expecting Ahmadinejad to be named Chief Of Staff. Of course, there is still room for Hugo Chávez as Secretary of State and Ayers in Homeland Security, right? :D
     
  4. Toad

    Toad New Member

    Funny Stu! :D

    Ribbit :)
     
  5. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."


    I don't see why not? We all need to keep an open mind, right? Wouldn't want to be thought of as being old school. Ayers has probably changed and will take us in a better direction. After all, he is friends with the mesi.....STOP! Free pass!! :D
     
  6. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Vess1 didnt you post that while MCain was involved with the Savings and Loan scandal; it was 20 years ago. And that we should let it go? The Ayers thing was 30 years ago And he was never convicted. I think the guy is a D bag. But he isnt a convicted felon. Charles Keating is though.
     
  7. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."


    Nope. That was David. I don't know a whole lot about Keating or the Keating 5, whatever or the time frame. I do know that McCain at least admitted to it and expressed remorse. More than I can say for other members/former members of the Senate.

    For the most part, you won't find me defending McCain here.
     
  8. Toad

    Toad New Member

    I remember a spot on CNN where Joe the Bummer was at a news conference and someone off to the side said something to the effect, that if Barack was elected Prez, it would mean the death of Israel and Joe the Bummer agreed with him and shook his hand. I find it ironic that Barack would pick a Jew for his Chief of Staff, when he plans on exterminating them? :eek:

    I can't believe all the lies that were perpetrated by the McCain/Failin campaign and you naysayers bought into it. :rolleyes:

    Payback sucks, doesn't it! :D

    Ribbit :)
     
  9. craig a

    craig a New Member

    My bad. lol.
     
  10. Drusus

    Drusus New Member

    Keating is why I didnt want McCain. He helped bilk the nation for billions...he took favors from Keating...big favors...and then sat on the sidelines when he could have put a stop to his buddy raping america...then walkied away scott free

    I DID vote for him in the end but I felt like I was voting to put Ken Lay in charge of another multi-billion dollar company. He did apologize and he DID say 'I will never live this down'...well...I think he did or he wouldnt have been running for president. He has been, for some time, the very picture of what is wrong with politics in my eyes. So it was hard to vote for him now.
     
  11. craig a

    craig a New Member

    And you still voted for him? Gee I hope Ultra-conservative Charlie Manson never decides to run.
     
  12. craig a

    craig a New Member

    I'm kidding. Or am I?
     
  13. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    John McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment began on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile over Hanoi.[33][34] McCain fractured both arms and a leg ejecting from the aircraft,[35] and nearly drowned when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake.[33] Some North Vietnamese pulled him ashore, then others crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt and bayoneted him.[33] McCain was then transported to Hanoi's main Hoa Lo Prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton".[34]
    McCain being pulled from Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi[36] on October 26, 1967

    Although McCain was badly wounded, his captors refused to treat his injuries, beating and interrogating him to get information; he was given medical care only when the North Vietnamese discovered that his father was a top admiral.[37] His status as a prisoner of war (POW) made the front pages of major newspapers.[38][39]

    McCain spent six weeks in the hospital while receiving marginal care.[33] By then having lost 50 pounds (23 kg), in a chest cast, and with his hair turned white,[33] McCain was sent to a different camp on the outskirts of Hanoi[40] in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week.[41] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[42]

    In mid-1968, John S. McCain, Jr. was named commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater, and the North Vietnamese offered McCain early release[43] because they wanted to appear merciful for propaganda purposes,[44] and also to show other POWs that elite prisoners were willing to be treated preferentially.[43] McCain turned down the offer; he would only accept repatriation if every man taken in before him was released as well. Such early release was prohibited by the POW's interpretation of the military Code of Conduct: To prevent the enemy from using prisoners for propaganda, officers were to agree to be released in the order in which they were captured.[33]

    In August 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain.[45] He was subjected to rope bindings and repeated beatings every two hours, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery.[33][45] Further injuries led to the beginning of a suicide attempt, stopped by guards.[33] After four days, McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[33] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he later wrote, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine."[46][47] Many American POWs were tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements;[48] virtually all of them eventually yielded something to their captors.[49] He subsequently received two to three beatings weekly because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[50] Former prison officials have denied that American POWs were tortured,[51] which contradicts prisoners' personal experiences.[35]
    Interview with McCain on April 24, 1973, after his return home

    McCain refused to meet with various anti-war groups seeking peace in Hanoi, wanting to give neither them nor the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory.[52] From late 1969 onward, treatment of McCain and many of the other POWs became more tolerable,[53] while McCain continued actively to resist the camp authorities.[54] McCain and other prisoners cheered the U.S. "Christmas Bombing" campaign of December 1972, viewing it as a forceful measure to push North Vietnam to terms.[47][55]
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    Sounds like someone who was in bed with Keating...



    Altogether, McCain was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam for five and a half years. He was released on March 14, 1973.[56] His wartime injuries left McCain permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head.[57]
     
  14. Toad

    Toad New Member

    I guess that's what made it so easy for him to stick his hands into Charles Keating's pockets? :rolleyes:

    Ribbit :)
     
  15. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    He did it just to tick you off [​IMG]

    I would do it just to tick you off. DC is the center for Tyranny in the world.
     
  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    McCain became enmeshed in a scandal during the 1980s as one of five United States Senators comprising the so-called Keating Five.[98] Between 1982 and 1987, McCain had received $112,000 in lawful[99] political contributions from Charles Keating Jr. and his associates at Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, along with trips on Keating's jets[98] that McCain belatedly repaid in 1989.[100] In 1987, McCain was one of the five senators whom Keating contacted in order to prevent the government's seizure of Lincoln, and McCain met twice with federal regulators to discuss the government's investigation of Lincoln.[98] In 1999, McCain said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."[101] In the end, McCain was cleared by the Senate Ethics Committee of acting improperly or violating any law or Senate rule, but was mildly rebuked for exercising "poor judgment".[101][99] In his 1992 re-election bid, the Keating Five affair was not a major issue,[102] and he won handily, gaining 56 percent of the vote to defeat Democratic community and civil rights activist Claire Sargent and independent former Governor Evan Mecham.[103]
     
  17. Toad

    Toad New Member

    Since you remind me of Mister Knowitall, from the Bulwinkle Show, educate me.

    What are the names of the U.S. House members for the District of Columbia?

    What are the names of the U.S. Senate members for the District of Columbia?

    I hope you are finished showing your ignorance once again, or do I also need to educate you on the Revolution of 1776 and why it occurred? Does Taxation without Representation, ring a bell? :rolleyes:

    Ribbit :)

    Ps: It isn't the center for tyranny, it's the capital of it!
     
  18. Toad

    Toad New Member

    Why did he repay Charles Keating anything? And why was it belated? Looks like he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, so he put the cookie back. :rolleyes: But why was his hand in the cookie jar to begin with? :rolleyes:

    That is what's known as an admission of guilt! :rolleyes:

    Ribbit :)
     
  19. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    You are not really educable. You are part of that 2% of the population that no amount of conversation, discussion, or logic can have any affect on. Dialog with you is pointless, except for the entertainment factor and your not smart enough or fun enough to be that entertaining.

    :rolleyes:
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    :rolleyes:

    Now Eddie Murphy, he is worth having a dialog with. I'll never forget that skit where he posed as a white man to find out that there really was a secret world of white male supremacy keeping all the brothers down.

    Ruben
     
  20. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Woah is his guilt. What heavy guilt he has... I'd discuss this with you if you weren't a crackpot. But there is no point.

    :eek: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

    Ruben

    PS - I need to find the Congressman from Guam...do you have his name.

    Free the Elephants! The Elephants want to be Free!
     

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