I think George Will got it right recently when he described Obama's role in the government. He said the liberals are taking an "adore & ignore" approach to Obama, thus explaining why he can't get anything done even though he doesn't need a single Republican vote to pass any measure he wants. Obama is basically a figurehead, selected based on his likeability (and willingness to say anything they tell him to say) to lull & trick the voters into putting a puppet in the White House. The powers-that-be trot Obama out to plead the case for "change", get the sheeple to accept it as fact then the dems & libs hash out their particular agendas behind the scene. Certainly explains why Healthcare is bottlenecked, doesn't it?
Well no not realy David as you have previously stated he has (And I stress your saying HE) a majority and anything HE says will pass!! Now you have actualy said this David so are you now saying that HE dont have all the Power you have accused him of having?
I think you're missing the point. He hasn't been able to do much to this point besides ram stimulus bills through. Other than that, no good constructive legislation has come out to help the country. Well, it can be argued that the stimulus helped the big banks, not the country... Every time things don't go Obama's way the media blames republicans for being the monkey wrench and holding things up when they're not even needed. As dimwitted as most voters are, the majority probably still believe that non-sense. If it works, they should keep spreading the propaganda. Why not?
I think the Presidents problem is that he has some serious extremist nutjobs (in the House, especially). Now, I will leave it open to debate how liberal the President actually is but...I think he is smart enough to know he can't go over the top like, say, Pelosi, and expect to get re-elected.
Nope Vess I think that you are missing the point, he can only get through Bills that are supported by a majority regardless of what paty they are in, but some here refuse to accept this as the truth! One moment he controlls all then the next its See he controlls nothing!! Stu I think that you are quite correct in that assesment
That isnt true. So why did you write that? The GOP doesnt get blamed every time something gets held up. Who printed that? In what paper?
Ahhh. You like that, huh? 'cause it ryhmes, right? C'mon, thats why you like it. It means crap but you like the term. Blah blah puppet, blah blah agenda, . Always the same with you. We get it you dont like the guy. Stop rehahsing the same stuff all the time.
Sorry but I have yet to see one good policy come out of the Obama White House. He rushed through a Stimulus package that 99% of the Senate or House stated they even read. We had to have it NOW, for shovel ready jobs, yet unemployment continues to rise. Oh wait that is right the place with the lowest unemployment right now is Washington DC. This money went to the banks. What did it do for us? Nothing. The banks still are not giving out loans. Next we had the bail out of the car companies. Which surprisingly are still failing. Next we had cash for clunkers. hmmmm now what did that do, it gave us a false spike because those that were thinking about maybe buying a new car did not wait, they did it now. Oh but lets see, who profited from this Toyota and Ford were the winners, and by chance were also the only two not failing before the bailout. Both companies that the Obama admin bailed out still showed a loss after this great cash for clunkers idea. (oh and now we (the car dealers) have a shortage of used cars to sell). And unemployment, is still rising interesting. Oh but wait, none of this is Obama's fault, it is Bushes fault as Obama inherited it. Come on now, Obama has been in office for almost a year and has yet to do anything really except increase the national dept and expand the government. ooppps my microwave just went off (actually it is done heating what is in it) hmm it must be Bushes fault it went off while writing this post. Dave USN Retired and Damn proud of it Note: This post was written with out the aid of any TelePrompter
Bail out of the Banks started pre the Obama administration, the big stimulas was allready in motion pre the Obama administration Job losses were allready rising sharply month on month pre the Obama administration, now would you care to argue the validity of any of those points? Emergency US talks are continuing on a $700bn (£380bn) bail-out plan aimed at reviving the finance sector. September 2008 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article4864994.ece US jobless figures worst since 1974, The US economy shed 533,000 jobs last month (Date line 5 Dec 2008) http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/05/usemployment-useconomy So yes even if you dont like the stark facts he did inherit a great deal of it, and before you start I am not even blaming the Bush administration for the mess
No I will not argue that the bailout of the banks did in fact start under the Bush admin. But as you can see by your Date Line of 5 Dec 2008 the economy really did not shedding job at a substantial rate until after Obama had won the election. As far as the bailouts, which party controlled the House? I would bet it was the Dems Now I am not saying that Bush was a Saint, heck he was far from it, but you also have to look at congress to see what part they played in all this. When you get right down to it, I personally put most of the blame for the banks failing, housing crisis on Barry Franks. After all he was/is the chairman of the ways and means committee. It was his policies that lead to Fannie May and Freddie Mac backing loans for people who had no income or way of paying for the houses they bought to begin with. So yes Bush did start the bailout of the banks which I say was totally wrong. Now for the unemployment. As far as I can recall, the unemployment figures really started to fall just before the election when it was all but certain that Obama was going to win the election, and have continued to do so ever since. I am of the opinion and again it is only my opinion, that once the major manufactures realized that Obama was going to win, they started cutting back as they understood his policies would not help the economy but do just the opposite. Whether you like or dislike Obama, he is one of the first Presidents I can remember that has spent more time on the road, doing late night talk shows, promo's for TV shows, etc then at the White House. Heck he is on TV more than most actors who have shows on TV. Seems to me that instead of leading this country he is still on the campaign trail trying to win an election. Dave USN Retired and Damn proud of it
In the 3 months up to March 2008, 232,000 jobs were lost figures from the US dept of Labour this was seen as one of the worst job losses since the great depression!! Now that was in March of 2008 and it steadily got worse, so you are telling me that as far back as that Obama was a shoo in for the Presidency LOL If you are going to blame the man for things thern at least try to blame him for things that he is responsible for. I can agree with you that the cash for clunkers is not a well thought out idea, it might have worked better if it had been aimed soley at American cars and not just cars but again to blame him entierly for it LOL
Reagan faced a huge mess when he took office in the 1980's. He believed in the individual and the American spirit to fix the economy. He always believed that government wasn't the solution, it was the PROBLEM! Today, we have B.O. that believes it is the government's role to fix everything, not individual. What a shame...what shame.
He was on TV quite alot also. But he was liked by both parties so he was rarely criticzed for it. I dont think he cared much for the American spirit fixing things. He did however believe that big business could fix anything. And thanks to his deregulating thoses businesses they feasted on greed till there stomachs exploded and now we have this mess. What a shame, what a shame. Like I said he was liked and likeable. I voted for him twice. Even with him breaking his own, 'We will not deal with terrorists' decree.
