Would Releasing Bin Laden's Death Photo Just Fuel Conspiracy Theories?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Moen1305, May 4, 2011.

  1. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."

    I don't hate Obama. Now if you said I believe he should be working as a car salesman somewhere instead of being the president of the US, meh, yeah, I'll give you that one. He's a radical left wing progressive, who undeservedly won an election and represents very few of the US population. If I'm supposed to be happy over that, I'm sorry.

    Hate the state of Illinois? Well, I don't hate the property itself. It's my home. Hate Illinois government and Chicago? Yeah, deeply. So far this year, they have passed everything I'm against and nothing I'm for and I'm paying more for it than I was last year. Are people moving here in droves or leaving in droves?

    Agree with Sean Hannity 95% of the time. Why wouldn't I watch?
     
  2. jth

    jth New Member

    Their words not mine. Actions speak even louder. Remember when Obama demanded the 2000 photos of abu grab be realesed. Where was his damn concern for our troops then?
     
  3. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    So if he keeps something secret he is in the wrong, if he lets it into the public domain he is in the wrong! and those pictures were allready in the public domain, those idiots who took them posted the bloody things on web sites and shared them with there buddies (I assume you are talking about the pictures of US Soldiers abusing people in there care? and in the process draging the good reputation of the American Armed forces through the mud (Or perhaps you aprove of that))
     
  4. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Timeline of George W. Bush's Presidency:
    • Takes office just after 9/11 2001 after Bill Clinton presided over the worst attacks this country has ever had.
    • Holds office until 2008 when Barack Obama takes over the country temporarily and sends this country into the worst recession since the Great Depression.
    • Reassumes office on May 1st 2011 just in time to kill Bin Laden hiding in Pakistan.
    • Returns the office of the president back to Obama just in time to decline an invitation to honor those lost on 9/11 in a ceremony at ground zero.
     
  5. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Yep. Them too.
     
  6. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Only 95%?
     
  7. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Well...actually the JFK thing was reexamined in the eighties I believe, and it "officially" concluded that there WAS a conspiracy of sorts, but something less than the many stories circulated to that point (other something like that).

    I'm glad you happily accept everything at face value Moen. Must make for burden free sleep and alleviate any responsibility as a citizen too. Whatever works for you brother.
     
  8. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther


    That's just a damn shame is what that is...
     
  9. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Let's just say I know the difference between when somethng smells funny and when something sells funny. It's a gift.
     
  10. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Do you lose sleep over the moon landing? Really? Or the JFK BS? And even 9/11? Hey I know a guy who can solve that insomnia.
     
  11. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    You can assume whatever you want, makes no difference to me, but if you want an answer you'll have to tell me what a "deather" is.
     
  12. IQless1
    Blah

    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    From what I remember, a mob boss in New Orleans admitted he gave the order (can't remember if it a death-bed thing) and kept the info private more 'cause the other bosses would have sent him a fish for not consulting with them on such a high non-Italian target. But, I think of that as a possibility more than a certainty. I know, irrelevant conspiracy-type theory lol ...just thought I'd add
     
  13. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    Here they go. The nuts have found a new cause already.


    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- With "birthers" mostly silent, "deathers" are now pushing a new conspiracy theory.

    The release of President Obama's birth certificate last week apparently tamped down -- to a large degree -- skeptics who questioned whether he could legally serve as president because they said he wasn't a natural-born citizen. Now, a surprisingly diverse crop of people are questioning whether Osama bin Laden is actually dead.

    Some media outlets and bloggers are calling them "deathers."

    Their claims follow a wide range: Some believe that the world's most-wanted terrorist was not the man killed Sunday, others think bin Laden is dead but was killed many years ago, and still others believe that the September 11 mastermind is alive -- and secretly being interrogated.

    One Fox Business News host is not going quite that far. Judge Andrew Napolitano at one point declared that "Osama bin Laden is dead," but he later seemed unconvinced. Napolitano also questioned the president's authority to kill him.

    Napolitano began his Monday show by saying bin Laden was "killed on the illegal whim of the president." Moments later, he added, "Osama bin Laden is dead. And the president seems to think he has the right to kill whomever he wants so long as the person is perceived as a monster and the public supports it."

    And yet the judge also questioned whether officials are "telling us the truth or pulling a fast one to save Obama's lousy presidency." Later in the broadcast, Napolitano asked a guest, "Do you believe he's dead, or do you want some more evidence: a photograph, a testimony of an eyewitness? Something other than the words of a president whose words we have doubted before?"

    Others who are questioning bin Laden's death include a libertarian talk radio host, a well-known liberal anti-war activist and some everyday Pakistani students.

    What their claims all have in common -- much like claims that the president was born outside the U.S., instead of in Hawaii -- is that they go against the agreed-upon facts.

    Poll: 3% now think Obama born abroad

    Obama's decision not to release the photos of bin Laden's death seems to be stoking "deather" fires.

    Conspiracy Theories
    Alex Jones is a Texas-based talk radio host who also runs various websites and whose YouTube channel claims more than 24 million views. He is sometimes called a right-wing conspiracy theorist.

    After the president's announcement of bin Laden's death, Jones told his listeners in one broadcast, "My friends, this is a complete and total hoax."

    "Where is the body?" Jones asked in another show. "My White House sources nine years ago, on record, confirmed that he had been killed and was frozen on ice."

    Opinion: A no-win decision on releasing photos

    Cindy Sheehan, who is certainly not an ideological ally of Jones', appears to agree with him on bin Laden's death.

    Sheehan became famous for protesting President George W. Bush's Iraq policy -- even camping out at the White House and the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch -- after her son was killed in the war.

    Shortly after the president's bin Laden announcement, Sheehan planted seeds of doubt on her Facebook page and blog.

    "It's not that I don't believe Obama about Osama because he's Obama, I don't believe him because he is just one in along line of butt-naked emperors," Sheehan wrote.

    "The only proof of Osama being dead again that we were offered was Obama telling us that there was a DNA match between the man killed by the Navy SEALs and OBL. Even if it is possible to get DNA done so quickly, and the regime did have bin Laden DNA lying around a lab somewhere -- where is the empirical proof?" Sheehan continued.

    Meanwhile, a Facebook page -- named "Osama Bin Laden Not Dead" -- has been created as a sort of message board for theories.

    "This whole story is a distraction from Obama's birth certificate bollox," Kevin Lane posted. "That was all over the news until in the space of 24 hours he had found OBL, killed (but not captured) him, done DNA tests and got the results (dont that take 3 days) and dumped his body at sea. Surely if OBL was/is such a bad man they would want the world to see him dead whether the pics are gruesome or not."

    "Bin Laden was taken alive and is being interrogated some where before being executed," David Colin Leach posted.

    Shortly after the announcement of bin Laden's death, university students in Abbottabad, Pakistan, where he was killed, expressed skepticism.

    "That's propaganda," one student told CNN's Nick Paton Walsh. "Osama has been killed 10 years ago in Afghanistan. And it's just a propaganda to finish the war in Afghanistan." Others refused to believe that bin Laden was even in Abbottabad. And others echoed calls for the Obama administration to show pictures.

    "If it is true, then why are they not showing his body?" one student asked.

    Would image silence doubters or fan flames?

    One expert on conspiracy theories said that such wide, diverse claims have one common element: They often come from the political "fright wing."

    "Your conspiracy theories tend to proliferate on the extreme edges of the political spectrum," said John Avlon, a CNN contributor and author of "Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America."

    "Unfortunately, you're going to have people who -- especially in today's politics and especially with the amplification that the Internet provides -- will embrace conspiracy theories on almost anything."

    And Avlon said such people often share a common trait.

    "They come up with these ornate explanations, alternate explanations, for how events occur, like JFK's assassination, in order to keep their own psychology in place. 'Nineteen guys could not have brought down the twin towers. It had to be a government conspiracy,' they say to themselves. Otherwise, the world becomes really scary and unpredictable and unstable for them."

    "While it's entirely predictable that certain Osama bin Laden conspiracy theories would proliferate in the Middle East, because of some people who have a creative interest in those rumors ... the fact that such (bin Laden) conspiracy theories are anywhere in the American political spectrum is a little surprising and a lot pathetic,"
     
  14. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

  15. jth

    jth New Member

    Spike the ball. HUH. He's done 3 cartwheels, a belly flop,and starting to dry hump the goal post.
     
  16. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member


    I guess the Deathers will need to include al Qaeda in their conspiracies....since they have acknowledged the death and are now picking a new leader to replace their dead one. They must be 'In On It' I would imagine.

    Inside al Qaeda succession: Who is likely to step up - CNN.com
     
  17. IQless1
    Blah

    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    I just like the Secret Service dude on the left ...I know it's his job, but really? (laughs)
     
  18. angie828

    angie828 New Member

    I have seen some fake ones floating around. I do not care either if they release them. The fake ones looked pretty morbid.
     
  19. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    What the hell Stu.

    We ALL know al Qaeda lies so they must be lying about Bin Ladens death. It's only "logical" after all.
     
  20. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    You are right. It has to be true. After all, Katsdung told me so!
     

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