Oslo Tragedy - Norway's Timothy McVeigh Another Right-Winger with a Gun and an Agenda

What? A liberal cannot be a leader?

How about Donald DeFreeze, Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, George Sams, Jr., Hugo Chaves, Fidel Castro, etc. Now you owe me 72 conservatibe-leaning[sic] men.

 

I haven't seen any proof from you that a liberal-leaning individual went on a mass-murder spree in defense of his personal political beliefs. You site leaders of movements, armies, countries, etc... I'd site some liberals that fit the bill, they are out there, but there are far fewer of them compared to their conservative counter-parts.

So you can't think of any conservative-leaning individuals who committed mass-murder in 'defense' of their political beliefs? Pretending to be ignorant? Fine. The Oklahoma City incident ...like you've never heard of it...

 

See? De Orc had no trouble finding a man who somewhat fits the definition of a liberal-leaning individual committing mass murder in 'defense' of his political beliefs... though he had to go back to 1973, when Essex, a 'black man' went out to "kill some honkies"...

 

There you go again... manipulating. Of course I never said a liberal cannot be a leader... but, of course, you had to say that I said that... typical non-rlm's cents.

The mass-murderer in Norway was an individual who was angry at his government and decided on his own to bomb his country's leaders and shoot their children. I'm asking for an example of a liberal-leaning individual who has done the same or similar. You site members of the Black Panthers and a couple of foreign, anti-American leaders as proof. Typical BS... you can do better...lol

 

I hate to break this to you, but Breivik was not acting as an individual.

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So now let me follow all of this; "Conservatives are far more prone to murdering others to make their point. I'd include any conservatives from any faith in that opinion, Christian, Muslim, etc., are all more prone to murdering others compared to their Liberal counterparts" is now limited to only people who;
"go on a mass-murder crusade for political reasons"
do it only "after a perceived attack on their beliefs"
set "off a bomb"
who go "on a shooting spree in defense of his political beliefs"
who are not "leaders of movements, armies, countries"

I guess that eliminates just about everyone but Breivik. So I will name Breivik. "Breivik describes himself as an economically liberal" and "Christianity has nothing at all to do with his ideology". 'Non-religious' Extremism: 'Understanding the Norway Massacre' :: Political News and commentaries :: Hyscience. That is the news. It is the same source you cite.

 

So is it your view that liberals are more likely, or equal to, conservatives when it comes to an individual committing mass murder to protest a percieved threat to his political beliefs? I've ruled out conservatives being more prone than liberals for you... since that is my position... but feel free to choose that if you wish.

 

I never said either was the more likely. My guess is that mental stability has a lot more to do with it than any political belief.

 

I'd agree that mental stability has a great deal to do with it. I'm saying conservatives have less of that than liberals lol

 

So far there has been no actual evidence that he was working with any other person, I have watched the latest police news briefings as well as the political ones as they have been shown live on tv over here. He deposited both car bombs on his own making 2 rather long round trips to do so and the same on the Island Yes he has spoken and been in internet contact with other right wing groups but that is a long way from been part of a larger active terror group
No group has come forward to claim joint responsibility with him which in itself is quite unusual.

Oh and the groupings that he gravitated towards are Extreem right wing, regardless of what his economic views are

Economic Liberal over here quite possibly has a diffrent connertation to the US

"Economic liberalism is the economic component of classical liberalism It is one the main components of the ideology of capitalism. It is an economic philosophy that supports and promotes laissez-faire economics and private property in the means of production."

In other words a free market economy without goverment interferance

 

That is an interesting conclusion again without any evidence. However, I would associate mental stability with happiness and conservatives are happier than liberals. Did not know that, did you?

Why Are Conservatives Happier Than Liberals?: Scientific American Podcast

 

Maybe its because liberals are more fustrated about the injustices that abound in this country.

 

Or maybe it is because conservatives are more logical? More religious? More generous?

 

Nope, that is just as stereotypical and as false as the IQless one's statement. And this is from a guy who loves stereotypes, but not political ones.

How about a joke to lighten the mood.

What do you call 50 lesbians and 50 politicians?

Answer: 100 people who don't do DICK!

 

Logical, I cannot prove.

Religious I am surprised you question it, and more surprised I cannot find a survey to prove it.

Generous

Op-Ed Columnist - Bleeding Heart Tightwads - NYTimes.com

 

Yeah, but what did you think of the joke?

 

I happen to take it a bit more personal than most (think about it) and I rate it about 50/50 to get you in trouble. (I don't mean offensive personal)

 

Which do you take more personal than most? Politics, lesbians or dick?

 

His name is Dick.

 

I am not sure he knows the difference.

 

Norwegian Shooting Suspect's 'Manifesto' Inspired By American Right-Wing Thinkers

Norwegian shooter/bomber Anders Behring Breivik left behind a 1,500-page "manifesto," and its ideas bear an eerie similarity to American right-wing thought.

Before the deadly attack in Norway that killed 76 people, suspect Anders Behring Breivik left a long trail of material meticulously outlining his political beliefs. His 1,500-page political manifesto, titled "A European Declaration of Independence," seeks common cause with xenophobic right-wing groups around the world, particularly in the United States. It draws heavily on the writing of prominent anti-Islam American bloggers, as well as Unabomber Ted Kaczynski.

His writing reveals he is a right-wing nationalist fueled by a combined hatred of Muslims, Marxists, multiculturalists and feminist women. Even after the massacre in Norway, some right-wing pundits in the United States have come out in defense of Breivik’s analysis.

We speak with Jeff Sharlet, an author who has written extensively about right-wing movements in the United States, who has read much of Breivik’s 1,500-page manifesto. "What struck me most about this document is just how American it is in every way. I mean, a huge amount of it is from American sources," Sharlet says. "He’s a great admirer of America, because he says United States, unlike Europe, has maintained its 'Christian identity.