Reaping the Rewards of Their Own Ignorance

Anybody else find it poetic justice or just plain funny that the southern red states with the most conservative voters and likely the first to doubt global warming science are the same people being boiled week after week with triple digit high temps? We here in the north have finally cooled off and tend to believe in the science of global warming. Again, life proves that we reap what we sew.

 

It shouldn't be much longer before the Vikings can set-up some colonies in Greenland.

 

Oh! Goody. Now you are blaming global warming on conservatism.

BTW, if you are going to borrow a proverb from the Bible, you might at least learn the proper words to use in it. I will bet even your poor students know that is wrong.

 

I think this thread clearly represents the hypocrisy & inconsistencies in the global warming circles. When we have abnormally cold snaps they claim it proves "global climate change" but when it gets hot in August it goes right back to sure fire proof "global warming". By the way, dr moen phd, in case you weren't aware, it historically tends to be hotter in the South than the North and it gets hotter in the summer. Just in case you missed that....

 

That is just how uninformed you are. Global warming science isn't just the measure of high temperatures, it is the recognition of droughts, heavy snow falls, melting ice caps, polar seas unfreezing, hurricane activities, the fact that the number of tornadoes recorded in a month blew away the old record, and on and on...

If you’re so simple-minded that you can't comprehend the science of climate change, do you really have the knowledge to even comment on the science you are against? Probably not bloody likely. The only people in the world that doubt global warming are the Right-wingers in this country. The rest of the world isn’t as easily fooled as they are.

Anyway, glad you guys live in the south and doubt global warming is real. It just tickles my innards.

 

.....yet you use high temperatures in your OP as supposed proof of gloabl warming.....odd

 

It IS one indicator just not the only one. Which is what I was just saying. It seems that the more variables that need to be considered the less understanding you have. It's sort of a failure of scope on your part more than anything.

 

You mean like Garth Paltridge, Hendrik Tennekes, Antonino Zichichi, Khabibullo Abdusamatov, Sallie Baliunas, Chris de Freitas, William Kininmonth, Tad Murty, Tim Patterson, Ian Plimer, Tom Segalstad, Nicola Scafetta, Nir Shaviv, etc. You will need to inform that of your newly assigned nationality and political affiliation.

 

What, are these guys ALL pariahs in their own fields? The first couple I looked up all have serious credibility issues within their own field of expertise. Post the link to the site that you copied and pasted these names from. I wonder who is pushing these guys as “experts”?

Hendrik Tennekes
In an interview in the Dutch paper De Telegraaf, Tennekes says he was ousted from his position at the Royal Dutch Meteorological Institute due to his skepticism over climate change. After publishing a column critical of climate model accuracy, Tennekes says he was told "within two years, you'll be out on the street".
According to Gerbrand Komen, a retired KNMI researcher, Tennekes' view on climate change played a minor role. More important were Tennekes' personality and his solitary views on a range of subjects. As an example Komen recalls how Tennekes objected to the increase of computing power for medium-range weather forecasting, because he considered this unnecessary. According to Komen, Tennekes sometimes supported this decision by referring to biblical texts.

Antonino Zichichi
Zichichi is regarded as an effective communicator who succeeded in focusing attention on the scientific world in the Italian media. However, he has been criticized from many quarters for his biased views. In his book on Galileo, Galilei, Divin Uomo: as many book reviewers have pointed out, this is a book with an ideological agenda, in which objectivity is sacrificed to the demonstration of the thesis that Galileo was a deeply committed Catholic more than a scientist and was therefore willing to renounce his scientific convinctions for his faith.[citation needed]
Elio Fabri, professor of Physics at Pisa, Enrico Bellone, professor of the history of science at the University of Milan and Piergiorgio Odifreddi, mathematician at Cornell University and at the University of Turin, have all criticized his essays both with regard to form and with regard to contents (often pointing out errors in the scientific part itself). Odifreddi has even been sued by Zichichi for defamation for having pointed out the numerous contradictions in his writings in an article entitled "Zichicche" (a portmanteau word from "Zichichi" and the Italian "chicche", meaning "interesting bits"), which later became a book consisting of a collection of writings about Zichichi by various people. There is a preface written by Giulio Andreotti.
Zichichi has called global warming models "incoherent and invalid".

Khabibullo Abdusamatov
Abdussamatov claims that "global warming results not from the emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, but from an unusually high level of solar radiation and a lengthy—almost throughout the last century—growth in its intensity." This view contradicts the mainstream scientific opinion on climate change as well as accepted reconstructions of solar activity. He has asserted that "parallel global warmings—observed simultaneously on Mars and on Earth—can only be a straightline consequence of the effect of the one same factor: a long-time change in solar irradiance." This assertion has not been accepted by the broader scientific community, some of whom have stated that "the idea just isn't supported by the theory or by the observations" and that it "doesn't make physical sense."

 

Serious "credibility" issues because they disagree with you position? That is all you diatribe is saying.

Regardless of your opinion of their science (now there is an oxymoron), it is definitely enough to make you a liar.

 

Not my opinon, their own collegue's opinions.

Where is that link? Give us your copy and paste site.

 

On a side note, don't you find it just a little strange that the people funding most all of the anti-climate change propaganda out there are the same people that stand to lose the most $$ if they have to finally clean up their act? It's probably just easier and cheaper to keep polluting and denying that the problem exists and continue to get rich off of destroying our environment. If there is a conspiracy of misinformation going on, it's probably propagated by those with the most to lose. Follow the money has been a tried and true adage for generations and it is certainly apt in this situation.

 

Their own colleague's opinions also happens to be your opinion. Regardless, the key word in there is "opinion".

I assume you are asking for the link "to make you a liar". Don't need one. You said, "The only people in the world that doubt global warming are the Right-wingers in this country." By your own admission, they "doubt global warming" and they are not "in this country".

 

You can't reason with the global warming crowd. If it's too cold, they say that's proof of global warming...if it's too hot, well, proof again. If it snows in winter, hey! Global warming...the sun shines in winter? Agin- global warming. When arguments are made against the "warming" aspect of global warming suddenly it becomes global climate change. So much proof has been presented discrediting the phony science behind the movement it sort of reminds me of the 9/11 conspiracy nuts...you know- reach a conclusion conclusion then twist the facts to make it work. Then, what about Al Gore? Un supported "facts", phony video, etc.

 

Ah, more specious reasoning. You might as well say that the people who voted for Obama (in those same red states) are being boiled. That makes just about as much sense.

 

Figures. 8 of the Top 10 states that pump the most Greenhouse Gasses into the atmosphere are Blue States...but the Red States have to pay the price for them with a heat wave.

Truthfully, though, I am in a Blue State and it has been hot as hell. Of course, we are a top 10 emitter too so at least we deserve it.