What's wrong with the Tea Party?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vess1, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Yep!
    BTW, Did that say they were "angry"? "old"? "curmudgeons"? "MILF mongering idiots"? "hardcore racists"? "morons"? "intolerant people"? etc. and so on and so forth - because you have said every one of them
     
  2. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    What poll? :confused:
     
  3. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Did you bother to read what you posted?
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    If that is not a poll you need to give me your definition of a poll. BTW, both cited from your reference.
     
  4. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Read this snipet again. How could these supposed researchers possibly know what questions to ask 5 years before there was a Tea Party in order to predict who would be a Tea Party member 5 years later? Doesn't this smack of a conclusion being reached & the "evidence" being twisted to support it?

    ****and you realize the link you provided was an OPINION piece, didn't you?
    OOPS!!!
     
  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    It does not surprise me that you don't have any idea what the difference is between a multi-year long-term university (universities) research study by 2 different political scientists is and a media poll. You might be Davy's lap money but without the benefit of a leash and an organ grinder, your entertainment value is pretty low.

    Now move along chimp boy. I’d like to hear Davy’s opinion or maybe his next anecdotal story. They’re always so entertaining.
     
  6. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Did you see your poll?
     
  7. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    You're just desperate. It is legitimate research being highlighted in the article but how did I know your anecdotal story was going to be the source you'd rather believe? Oh yeah, you're an idiot.

    A Harvard "supposed" researcher? They hire "supposed" researchers all the time I’m sure. Do me a favor here and come up with research on the Tea Party that contradicts this research. Not a poll but actual political scientists conducting research on the same subject. Oh, I forgot, your kind doesn't believe in science just anecdotal stories. Never mind, ignorance it your preferred planet. Enjoy your stay.
     
  8. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    It does not surprise me that you don't have any idea what the difference is between a multi-year long-long-termed government funded leftwinged university proganda study by 2 different political ideologists is and a saudi-controlled media poll. You might be smart like Davey but I am more educated.

    Liberal Mantra: If two wrongs do not make a right, then try a third for that is leftist.
     
  9. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    In research, it's called a baseline Einstein. You are just ignorant of science in general.
     
  10. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    If it contradicts the Right-wing, it must be biased. That defense gets pretty old.
     
  11. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Polls, huh? "Research" AKA polls in this case.
     
  12. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Dunno, what should I believe? Hmmm...facts I have seen with my own eyes or an op-ed piece you cite? Let's see, hmmmm...your "research" claims questions were asked that presupposed membership to the Tea Party 5 years before there was such a thing. Maybe you missed this question the first time I asked it: If this research was based on questions asked 5 years before there was a Tea Party (as is stated in your post), how did they know what questions to ask? I gotta know!
     
  13. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    No it doesn't. You simply can't figure out what the hell you are reading as usual.

    They wrote:
    Beginning in 2006 we interviewed a representative sample of 3,000 Americans as part of our continuing research into national political attitudes, and we returned to interview many of the same people again this summer. As a result, we can look at what people told us, long before there was a Tea Party, to predict who would become a Tea Party supporter five years later.

    What part of that is confusing you? They already had a representative sample that they then used as a baseline to predict who would become a Tea Party member as of this past summer. Why is this simple concept so tough for you? Just asking the question you asked shows how little you really know. You are just simply out of your element. If I doesn’t involve selling widgets, it probably is a conversation you should stay out of. You just open your mouth and sound foolish.

    :oops:
     
  14. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Still cannot find your polls?
     
  15. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."

    What I'd like to know is what you want America to look like in 50 years!? Is it really about white people getting some advantage as you say? Are you contending that the democrat party and BO represent everything we need then? How are angry Mexicans marching in California streets with Mexican flags going to help change the country for the better? What do they really want besides more given to them? They march around and cheer the country they escaped from because it's so miserable and out of control. Then they want to bring that here. The dems want as many of them to come here as possible. The tea party doesn't want them because the sensible point of view would be that over the long term, these people are a huge liability and burden on everyone else!

    You seem to be angry that many of the country's Founders were deeply religious and that's how it all began. You seem to be angry that a Constitution even exists. Please just come out and admit that you hate the Constitution. Because the party you support hates it and is only willing to follow it when it's convenient. Or, when the issue barely applies to anything anymore. Have to assume you feel the same way.

    The Tea Party stands for common sense. The democrat party stands for chaos. Any black person or Mexican that cares about seeing the government uphold the Constitution would be welcomed by the Tea Party. If they are the opposite of this and just want to tear everything down to try to get as many free benefits for themselves as possible, then they support the democrat party. People's own belief system decides which side they want to be on. Not their race as you try to conveniently simplify it to.
     
  16. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

     
  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Clown Hater

    Well we put a in charge and look what happened. Maybe we need a little more racism in this country. Where I live, Americans seem to be the minority. Everyone is foreign and they all speak a different language. It used to be that immigrants would join America and become part of the melting pot. Now it seems they just want to come here and turn it into wherever they came from.

    And if you don't recognize that the Tea Party is a grass roots movement of middle class Americans who you claim to love so dearly, then you are freaking blind. And btw, please explain why white people have an advantage over non-whites. This should be hysterical.

    RACIST TERMS ARE NOT ALLOWED
     
  18. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I don't have to guess what America will look like in 50 years. I already know. Whites will be a minority. The country will be far more multicultural that at any other time in its history. Big deal. Tell me why people fear that. I think Obama scares people, well certain people, simply because he isn't white. As the research I have posted shows, the Tea party people were the most likely to disparage minorities prior to the existence of the Tea Party when they were just very conservative white people and now that they have become the lion's share of the Tea Partiers, their attitudes have not changed. You disparage Mexicans in this post rightly or wrongly but it is plain that you have a negative view of the whole of the Mexican community. Illegal immigration is a problem but it is not causing the problems this country has. It is just another situation of blame the immigrants again as has always been in this country.
    The founders of this country were not deeply religious. That is a false statement that is easily disproved. Most were actually deists. I don't hate or love the constitution nor am I under the illusion that it is the end-all be-all to every problem. You know that if you were actually a strict constitutionalist, we wouldn't have a standing army, we wouldn't be involved in nation building all over the world, and we corporations wouldn't exist. You can't tell me that I hate the constitution and then ignore all that exists outside of the constitution that you plainly accept. Maybe it is YOU that hate the constitution? The argument works both ways.

    The Tea Party is anything but common sense. It they actually hated handouts, they'd return their Social Security checks and Medicare payments. They like their handouts they just don't like anyone else's handouts. The Tea Partiers are a bunch of hypocrites.
     
  19. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Moen, I think no one would mind the large mexican influx into our country if it didn't help bankrupt our county and no one would have mind so much of the Mexican influx into the county if they embraced the United States more then what has been demonstrated, example the united states soccer team having to leave the field against mexico because of being hit by bottles thrown by mexicans living in LA, and I think that most people would not mind if the United States of America had such a large mexican populaton if mexico itself was not one of the most dangerous nations in the world to live in. People including established mexican americans have alot to worry if our border becomes a blur with mexico and we fuse into one nation in the southwest and southeast.
     
  20. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I might believe that was true if every wave of immigrants this country has ever experienced wasn't accompanied by an equally adverse reaction by those that fear immigrants whether they be Germans, Irish, Poles, Mexicans, Asians, or any other group that came here to find prosperity. Everything is always blamed on the immigrants. Read the history of any immigrant group and you find the same stereotypes and prejudices attributed to most any of them. I just don't buy into it one more time for old time’s sake.
     

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