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Actually the only thing I find racist is segregating peoples by their race racist. The only one doing that here is you.

 

I see! Although "white" isn't a race. If I am talking about black people, am I also being a segregationist racist? Your criticism is sort of hard to figure out. Have you ever filled out one of the ethnic surveys? Did you also find that racist? I know that every time you make a doctor's appointment by law, you have to answer a question about your race. Is that racist to you?

 

I did not say talking about the different races, I said segregating by the races. And, yes, I find answering questions about my race/heritage offensive. My typical answer is that I am an American. That is all they need to know.

 

Well the rest of us, broadly speaking, realize that we live in multicultural society and the fact that you find questions about race, ethnicity, skin color offensive doesn't mean that the rest of us are a bunch of racists. Now that I know what motivates your dislike of the term "white" I can ignore your rants properly. Thanks!

BTW I guess your ancestors were already here when the Europeans showed up. You are an American after all.

 

See what a deep hole you dig when you assume things.

 

I'm still waiting for your explanation of how you can look at a photograph and pick out the "minorities".

In this great melting pot called the United States where people of different skin tones have blended their genes for at least several hundred years (not even mentioning that they've done the same all over the world for millions of years prior to that), I'd like to know how you, Mr. Moen, can differentiate one person's ethnic heritage (or "race", if you prefer) from another just by looking at them.

 

I doubt anyone called themselves 'Americans' before the Europeans showed up so calling oneself 'an American' would almost seem to imply post-European.

 

Yes there is certainly a lot of discussion these days about people of mixed backgrounds not fitting into any single ethnic category especially on research campuses. The supposed inference you tried to make during the Cons debates was that you can't tell minorities just by looking at people. The only point I was making was that they certainly looked almost exclusively white while at any Democrat function, the contrast is highly apparent because there is actual diversity. It is only visual comparison but you can do pretty much the same thing during a state of the union address and see that one side is almost exclusively white males while the other side looks like a cross section of America.
If you are trying to make the point that there is just as much diversity on your side of the aisle as there is on the Democrat side of the aisle, I'll just have to disagree with the complete and total lack of any evidence visual or otherwise to support your claim. Saying or thinking any such thing would be completely delusional.

 

Good point Stu.

Now, if I walked into to Wendy's for a nice, healthy double with cheese and they asked me to declare my race I would have a problem with that. I suppose I would have to choose Other since my heritage would be "Gaulish American" most likely as my family basically came from Germany and France.

Now if I go to the doctor exhibiting some symptoms I am Caucasion. This does not bother me at all. Why?

If they draw blood it will go to a lab that has no clue about it other than it's red. It wouldn't make sense for them to be looking for a disease that really only strikes other races would it? Should they be looking for sickle cell for example?

I would surmise that labs see a lot of red blood on a daily basis. I would further surmise that in the United States most of it comes from Americans. Put the two together and you have Red Blooded Americans!

Knowing the racial background, however, could be beneficial to the people in the lab as well as the patient.

Or is that too logical and practical?

 

I feel similarly. To me, answering a question about my race is no different than answering a question about my shoe size or weight. Based upon whether I feel you 'need to know', I will answer. If not, I might or might not answer based upon whether I 'want you to know'.

 

I prefer the analogy of a tossed salad of that of a melting pot to the extent that it means retaining to some degree your ancestral culture and heritage. This season in our area there's been a Greek festival, a Polish festival, an Octoberfest, an Italian festival, two Japanese festivals and a Chinese/Pan-Asian one. We missed the Polish one, the Octoberfest, and one of the Japanese ones, but managed to get to the others. Also Pride and two street fairs. I don't like the idea of an amorphous mass. It seems awfully bland and boring to me, but maybe it wouldn't be. As far as interracial marriage goes I think any residual weirdness about that will be gone in another generation. At least in most places.

 

Hence, the term "racist" can be used to describe these exact criteria you're utilizing. Basing a judgment upon a person's skin tone as to their ethnic background (or, as I've stated previously "race" if you prefer to use that term) is, by definition, "racist". I don't mean to imply that the term "racist" when used in this context is necessarily a derogatory term; it's simply a descriptor of the judgment you're making. To judge a person's "race" based on skin tone or by simply looking at them (which is exactly what you're doing) is "racist".

I still don't know what your definition of a "minority" is. The dictionary defines MINORITY as "a person of an ethnic minority". Since you're so empowered as to perceive "minorities" simply by looking at them, would you please be so kind as to tell us how many minorities you see in the following photograph:

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We have a very nice Oktoberfest here which I attended this year. It was great! I've never been to a Polish festival - is it similar to a German festival? I've also never been to a Japanese festival which is something I would really like to attend. I attended our Pride festival this year and it was a blast - you'd probably be surprised just how good the parade is here in Oklahoma (who would expect that?... but it's true). We have lots of arts festivals here and I try to attend every one of them!!

 

I didn't say anything about anyone's ethnic background. I didn't use race or skin color to discriminate against anyone. I merely pointed out how the audiences look almost completely white. In fact, in the first two debates, as hard as I tried, I couldn't pick out a single person of color and given the mixed culture I live in, it always seems strange to see so many white people with no people of color. But having said that, the real point is that white skinned people tend to dominate the wealthy class in this country. Why is that? Are white people just better at making money? Or do they have some inherent advantage? Or is it just a coincidence? Hum?
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And, just for addition, here is income...

 

It's about time Asians got included.

 

Un-be-lievable! I simply can't believe you're using such archaic terms as "white" or "people of color". And I still can't believe that you're able to discern a person's ethnicity just by looking at him or her. But, you've once again avoided answering my questions directly. So be it.

 

They're not archaic. Google either one. They are totally current (add "people" to white to narrow the search)

 

He and rim both fail to notice that even the US Census uses both the terms white and black. Is the US Census also racist? Un-be-liev-able... Did you see how I added an extra dash just to one-up his unbelievable?

 

What year?