Oh That Dreaded Health Care Law - Obama Cares!

Put this in your Right-wing pipe and smoke it.

WASHINGTON — Medicare's prescription coverage gap is getting noticeably smaller and easier to manage this year for millions of older and disabled people with high drug costs.
The "doughnut hole," an anxiety-inducing catch in an otherwise popular benefit, will shrink about 40 percent for those unlucky enough to land in it, according to new Medicare figures provided in response to a request from The Associated Press.
The average beneficiary who falls into the coverage gap would have spent $1,504 this year on prescriptions. But thanks to discounts and other provisions in President Barack Obama's health care overhaul law, that cost fell to $901, according to Medicare's Office of the Actuary, which handles economic estimates.
A 50 percent discount that the law secured from pharmaceutical companies on brand name drugs yielded an average savings of $581. Medicare also picked up more of the cost of generic drugs, saving an additional $22.

 

And just how much are these "savings" going to raise my taxses?

 

You figure it out chief.

 

That is what I figured. Ain't much I will be celebrating then!

 

Before you did your "figuring", did it occur to you to read the article before you tried to find a negative take on this news? Oh, such as, "A 50 percent discount that the law secured from pharmaceutical companies...." You can't celebrate what you don't read.

 

"I help to support the establishments I have mentioned-they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.'​

'Many can't go there; and many would rather die.'
'If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

 

Bah! Humbug!

I am taking my Intro to Research course this term and my professor is enamored of the healthcare law, which we are forbidden to call "Obamacare." I am not well informed about it yet, but since my research proposal must be on "mental health integration into primary healthcare" based on the new universal healthcare laws, I suspect I'll be better informed by the end of the term.

 

You are reading pay out. I am reading pay in.

 

Well then I'm assuming that I'll learn something at term-end. I'll be expecting a paper. I don't know why your prof is down on the term Obamacare. That's what I call it. Of course I'm not happy with it and maybe he/she's not either. As far as I'm concerned it doesn't go half far enough.

 

LOL If you can do something with a research proposal on *cough* Obamacare *cough* then have at it! I know I won't be researching it. Anyway, she seems to think that it's the best thing since psychotropic drugs for the psychological community. To me, the jury is still out. We'll see--and I hope to learn a lot, even though I'm not big on the topic.

 

I wondered why my prescription co-pays went up Oct 1. Damn old people.

 

Honestly, how many people will benefit from this? When you consider how many people are exempted from the clutches of Obamacare (based on where they live or what organizations they belonged to) or aren't in dire financial straights or get a $9.00 prescription or don't take any medication at all, is it worth ruining the entire healthcare system? I would much rather see a smaller program specifically benefitting any elderly citizens who can't afford their medicine.

 

Gee... ...has anyone here made up their minds on whether or not the health care act (the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) ...not to be confused with the United States National Health Care Act or Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act, both of which failed to pass) is good or bad? Any thoughts on the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act (an amendment to PPACA) then? How about the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act which was a rider on the amendment... since I know how everyone here loves to talk about higher education...

For an insight on how these became law, read the "History" section on this wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_Care_and_Education_Reconciliation_Act_of_2010

 

moen, you care to address this?

 

You ask a question that I nor anyone else could possibly answer and base it on the statement, "When you consider how many people are exempted from the clutches of Obamacare (based on where they live or what organizations they belonged to) or aren't in dire financial straights or get a $9.00 prescription or don't take any medication at all, is it worth ruining the entire healthcare system?", which isn't even a question but rather a statement followed by a question mark, and expect me to know what the heck you are talking about. I read it and moved on not because I was so corned by your supreme intellect but because I could even figure out what the heck you were getting at. Maybe if you restate it more succinctly I'll give it a shot. No guarantees though, you just seem to make a lot of assumptions when you try to ask a question.

 

You start a thread proclaiming a perceived benefit of Obamacare & it can't answer a few simple questions? I have to say you never disappoint...that was exactly the response I was expecting from you.

 

So you are unwilling to clarify your own question? You must have not been serious about wanting an answer. I didn't think so.

 

Why do you insist on dancing around the question? Is it so hard to defend this little nugget you once found so incredible?

 

David, while I'm just as interested in discovering the answer as you are, maybe the question could be framed a bit better? It does kind of ask several questions in one. I don't see anything wrong with starting with a statement, since you're setting down your assumption and providing a framework, but the rest of it seems to be a bit of a run-on sentence that expects the reader to follow the reasoning through to the conclusion.

Just trying to be helpful, since I would like to know the answer, too.

 

moen is only acting like he doesn't understand because he can't answer the 2 simple questions I posed.