Republicans Supporting Creation of a Slave Labor Class

Discussion in 'Politics' started by DeeNeely, Dec 3, 2011.

  1. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    I only put this together this morning.

    First, lets look at the issue of banning abortion (All Republicans). The banning of abortion will have one general effect. It will increase dramatically the number of poor people being born.
    Second, the elimination of social support systems and departments. The Republicans are pushing for the elimination of welfare (all Republicans) and the Departments of Education (most Republicans). This would result in a class of poor people without education, without housing and without hope.
    Third, the classification child labor laws as "stupid. (Gingrich)"
    Fourth, the classification of poor children as only being willing to be criminals (Gingrich).
    Fifth, the idea that is OK to force children as young as nine into forced labor (Gingrich).

    What kind of class will this create. It will create a class of uneducated people conditioned to being poor, used to being forced into labor and used to be being denigrated as worthless. We used to have a name for that. We called those people slaves. The fact that significant portions of the poor population are minorities should not be ignored either.

    At the same time, we are seeing other movements within the Republican party. The push to eliminate the EPA which will allow the rich and the corporations to pollute without restraint. The push to eliminate, or greatly reduce, the taxes on the richest Americans which will widen the gap between rich and poor.

    What kind of America will this create? It is not one that I would care to live in.

    On Newt Gingrich. With the decline of Cain's campaign the two front runners are pretty much Romney and Gingrich. After advocating for the elimination of child labor laws and promoting the idea of forcing the poor and/or their children into labor his poll numbers went up. This indicates that a significant portion of the Republican party members supports his ideas. If you say something stupid and your poll numbers go up what does that say about the supporting base?
     
  2. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Yep! That is what it sounds like!
     
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  3. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    What do you call the sum of the proposals? These are the things being promoted by the front runners of the Republican Party. Explain another conclusion which fits these facts.
     
  4. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    I would say that it would almost certainly create an America with more Democrat voters.

    The poor, minorities and those with no education (the groups you mentioned) tend to vote Democrat much more than Republican. In 2008, Poor: under $15000 - 73% voted Democrat, $15000-$30000 - 60%. Minorities: African-American 95% Democrat, Latino 67%, Asian 62%, 'Other' 66%. No Education: No HS Degree 63% Democrat.

    So, if the Republicans were to increase the number of the poor, poor minorities and those with no education, my conclusion on the kind of America this would create would be one in which the Democrats would get an increasing number of voters.
     
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  5. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

    I call it GOP Utopia.
    However, you forgot their most prominent tell which is their unrelenting attack on unions, the only representatives that the labor class in this country has anymore. It has been a systematic coordinated heavily funded attack by the likes of the Koch brothers and other business interests that couldn’t care less about the quality of life of the people of this country but seem us only as a source of cheaper and cheaper labor. Their big market is now China and it is my contention that they plan to bleed every last penny out of this country and reinvest it in the Chinese economy. Welcome to globalization folks, next stop, mass poverty. Hope you enjoyed the ride.
     
  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Simple-minded, far left silliness?

    Everyone knows it's the left who needs an indentured-class voting bloc in order to win an election. Can anyone say "cradle-to-grave" entitlements?
     
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  7. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    So far no one has offered a realistic reply to the fact. These are the positions of the Republican party as promoted by their front runners. The classification of welfare recipients as an indentured class only works if you redefine what indentured really means. Someone could counter with examples of Democratic politicians making claims which correspond to the ones promoted by the Republican politicians, but I am unaware of any Democrat who has suggested anything even remotely similar to what the Republicans are advocating.

    Besides I thought the purpose of entitlements are to keep people from working.

    What does indentured mean to you?
     
  8. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Maybe "Dependent-class" is more appropriate?
     
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  9. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    Perhaps. However, the Republicans are openly advocating changes to the system which will create a slave labor class. A class without education, food, work place protections and taught from birth to work for others without the opportunity for escape. This is what they are proposing judged by their very statements.
     
  10. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    There are no "facts" presented. There is not even one item supported. Because you imagination dreams things up does not make them facts nor does it make for interesting discussions.
     
  11. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Prove it!
     
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  12. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    Do you deny the fact that the Republican party is against abortion? I can provide proof. http://ontheissues.org/Celeb/Republican_Party_Abortion.htm
    Do you deny the fact that the Republican party is advocating for the removal of the Department of Education? I can provide proof. http://thenewamerican.com/culture/education/9318-gop-candidates-pledge-to-expel-education-dept
    Do you deny the fact that the Republican party is advocating for the elimination of welfare? I can provide proof. http://www.issues2000.org/celeb/Republican_Party_Welfare_ _Poverty.htm
    Do you deny the fact that Newt Gingrich said that child labor laws were stupid? I can provide proof. http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/newt-gingrich-calls-child-labor-laws-stupid/
    Do you deny the fact that Newt Gingrich said that the only thing poor children know how to do is be criminals? I can provide proof. http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gan...s-poor-kids-have-no-work-habits-except-crime/
    Do you deny the fact that Newt Gingrich said that children should be forced to work as janitors in their schools? I can provide proof. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/not-an-o...-to-fire-janitors-and-replace-them-with-kids/
    Do you deny the fact that Newt Gingrich is suddenly the front runner for the Republican Party along with Mitt Romney? I can provide proof. http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...ow-staying-power-after-his-rise-in-polls.html

    These are facts. You can deny them if you want, but these are the things the Republicans are calling for. You can find proof of them everywhere.

    Given these facts what do you think will be the result of these kinds of changes on the American population. I would love to hear a reasoned positive outcome of these changes.
     
  13. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    I proved their positions in the post where I replied to RLMCents saying that there weren't facts.

    I will ask you the same question. Given the Republican stances on these issues what other kind of society do you think these changes would cause?
     
  14. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I did not see one one about slavery there. I wonder why.
     
  15. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    If what you have written is what some within the Republican party want and would impliment upon taking power (and I have not had any time to check for myself that this is the case) then you are storing up real trouble for your selfs in the future
    These people will end up wanting what they do not have a hope of getting. the least you could expect is crime on a level you have not experienced before and at worst a civil war (it woudnt be the 1st time a underclass has risen in open rebellion).
    For any country to progress in this age you have to have a educated workforce with the hope of been able to advance there standing within society (The American dream if you wish to call it that) anything less will simply cause resentment, such a 2 tier society simply can not survive
    I would be interest to see if the Republicans on the forum will take the time to address what you have written point by point and not simply say it is a leftist plot
     
  16. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    With the facts of what the Republican party is promoting what do you think the result will be? What would you call a class of people without laws to protect them from proper labor practices. I see that you are not opposing the facts of the Republican position, but the result.
    I stated what I think the result would be. What do you think the result would be?
     
  17. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    I would be too. I noticed that suddenly "rlm's cents" isn't pretending that the facts I presented aren't accurate. Now the problem is with the conclusion instead.
     
  18. DeeNeely

    DeeNeely Well-Known Member

    Shhhhhh. Be Vewwy, Vewwy quiet. We are hunting for wabbits.
     
  19. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Not Republican!

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