More BO hypocrisy...

BO is making campaign jaunts around the country...on the tax payer dime...while maintaining his record of world-class hypocrisy:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...-bin-laden-to-score-political-points-in-2008/

 

...and again:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-campaign-trots-out-bin-laden-spikes-football_642143.html

 

It's called playing Politics David did you expect anything different from a politician?
Now as for his

"making campaign jaunts around the country...on the tax payer dime"​

Can I ask how any other sitting President has Campaigned for re election.​

Do they hire a private plane etc to do the traveling or do they use Air Force 1 or other means paid for by the Tax payer?​

Do they hire private security details or do they use those paid for by the tax payer?​

What is different in how this sitting President is traveling to his campaign venues to those used by any other sitting President?​

Would just appreciate you clarifying those points for me.​

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I hate to say this, but every POTUS (as well as governors, senators, etc.) does exactly the same thing. BO might be doing more of it, but but you are blind and deaf if you have not heard this same beef every 4 years from one party or the other.

 

Oh, but BO is supposed to be some new kind of politician, a transformational figure...that's what he ran on, that's what the left fell for & voted for.
Are you saying he's no different than any other person who has run for office? If I were a lefty & got duped by his lies, I might want to reconsider my vote this time around.

 

But you don't understand. It's only not okay when Obama does it. When a George Bush does it, it's just fine.

 

I hate to say that I agree with you but what you said is truth, with one caveat. There is nothing that suggests Obama is doing "more" than any other president. I'd like to see proof of that one way or the other.

 

Says who? I think you're making stuff up here to fit your agenda. Obama certainly has been a transformational figure in a lot of ways but that hardly makes it a blanket proposition that can be leveled as a criticism for ANYTHING he does or doesn't do. I'm from the Left and I am OK with his policies not because, as you say, "I have been duped", but because the alternatives on the Right need a guy like Frank Luntz to manipulate language just to get brainless idiots to buy into the nonsense they are selling. If someone is being duped here, I might suggest that you ask your party leaders why they even need to manipulate the conversation using someone like Luntz if they were being honest in the first place. Wouldn't the truth be all they needed? There is no equivalent to Luntz on the Left. Think about that. I wouldn't worry about the Left being duped if I were you, you have your own problems to deal with.

I can give you an example from Reagan's time which demonstrates exactly why YOU are being duped. Just ask. But then again, ideology based people rarely ask for facts.

 

As far as I am aware President Obama never said that he wouldn't use Air force 1 or any other publicly financed method of transporting the POTUS around the country and David made a point of this in his opening thread hence my questions.
The links that David provided had nothing to do with the President "campaign jaunts"

Do you believe whatever a politician tells you when he runs for office? If not then you can not be surprised if he turns out to be more of the same old thing. I am referring here to the claim that he is "some new kind of politician" to me there is little difference in the way any politician operates regardless of party. If you do believe then I feel sorry for you because they have a tendency to lie LOL

As for me possibly been blind or deaf I am neither (I assume this was a rhetorical question?) and I never claimed not to have heard this or anything similar before, I asked David who made the statement what "HE" thought the President was doing that no other had done, and so far he has failed to tell me.

I notice that all other respondents understand that his actions are no different to any other holder of that office in recent memory.

 

You really DO make some amazing ODS fueled "conclusions" David.

Does your insurance cover ODS? - because if it doesn't and President Obama wins a second term I'm afraid your head might literally explode.

 

Coming to conclusions requires a judgment or decision that is reached after deliberation or consideration of various factors. None of that is required when all that is spewed out is a narrative that has been repeated enough times as to obfuscate the need to even bother going through the process of coming to a conclusion. Once an ideology has been ceded to and surrender is complete, conclusions are left to those that weight alternative sides of the issue and are available to the influence of open-mindedness.

 

By the looks of it, Obama is stinking up the place with all the hot wind he is blowing.

 

Andy, you just so much to the conversation but unfortunately nothing that the average school kid couldn't come up with.

 

The truth sometimes does not need words.

 

I'd hope that the average school kid could do far better than Andy. If not, we have a problem.

 

Ok you want me to go cognitive on you.... then with that I retort, "A picture is worth a thousand words" Napoleon Bonaparte.

If Moen and yourself do not understand that with this photo we see that Obama is smelling up the joint in more ways then one then I will give you the explaination of the quote of which "a complex idea can be conveyed with just a single still image. It also aptly characterizes one of the main goals of visualization, namely making it possible to absorb large amounts of data quickly".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_picture_is_worth_a_thousand_words

 

A thousand words that you seem incapable of coming up with on your own. It just seems childish, immature, and sophomoric but I am unsurprised by your "contribution". I mean if it were something clever or witty or astute with relevance to the topic, I'd give you a pass but it just comes off as pathetic. And not because it puts Obama in some sort of imaginary bad light, it just isn't clever in the least which kind of reflects on you.

 

I have a hypothetical question: If Jr. had succeeded in killing Bin Laden in sayyy... early 2004 ...would it have been fair for him to mention it during the 2004 campaign?

I would say "yes" myself. I wouldn't have enjoyed the smugness emanating from the republican party that would surely have followed the news, but I would still say it would be fair for him to use it to his political advantage.

It's too bad Jr. didn't feel it was necessary to continue to pursue Bin Laden. It's entirely possible the hypothetical question posed above could have happened if Jr. wasn't so busy not answering questions like "Have you even used cocaine?"

But he didn't continue to pursue Bin Laden, and Obama did, therefore he not only threw away a political opportunity, he let down the entire country, many of whom feel betrayed by his lack of actions regarding Bin Laden.

Obama made finding Bin Laden a higher priority than where Jr. had left it. That decision directly resulted with the death of Bin Laden. As such, Obama deserves credit for the decision to heighten the priority, as well as for giving the order, that resulted in Bin Laden's death.

That the republican political strategy is to deny giving Obama any such credit is just one reason out of many that they are going to lose much of the respect independents and other people have for their party. People are not as stupid as the republicans believe. That this strategy of deception has worked for them in the past few decades doesn't mean it's going to continue to work for them. What's it's done is leave behind a history of bs, a history of disappointments, a history of shameful actions... and sooner or later that history will bite them in the buttocks.

 

And all of this coming from a man who posts for his icon the following: Yes very impressive use of the gray matter.

 

What's wrong with "El Americano"? Is it 'cause he's Mexican?