Anybody Want to Join the Public Fight About Bin Laden's Death?

This is fun!

 

This is a logical progression for RW'ers. They move from coloring pictures with crayons to colored pictures for morons.

 

You missed the point the Navy Seal Team itself was targeted because of the information that the Obama administration let out.

 

I hear what you are saying but, aren't all soldiers targets? Army, Navy, Air force, Marines... and all the little sub-units that they break down to... aren't they all targetted in one way or another?

The seals may work clandestinely, and the attention brought to them by Obama and his administration may make them wince a bit, but I didn't hear any complaints coming from them after the "Act of Valor" movie... and that certainly brought them attention too.

 

I don't believe the SEALS mind the attention. They just don't want to be killed, that's all.

 

Putting your reply in large type doesn't hide the fact that you've presented absolutely no evidence in support of this idea. You mis-stated the facts, and now you ignore that and continue to trumpet your bald assertion.

There was a CENTCOM investigation of the crash. CENTCOM is not a political body, and there is no reason why they would cover up some sort of "set up" in which elite soldiers were killed. If you had investigated this incident yourself instead of parroting a conspiracy theory, you would know that these soldiers were sent to do a job, and their helicopter was shot down by the Taliban. There is absolutely no reason to think that the Taliban even knew which unit the soldiers in the helicopter belonged to until it was reported in the US media. As well, there is no reason to think that the fact that the president gave the unit credit for its work in taking out bin Laden had anything to do with the Taliban shooting at the chopper. If you have even a shred of evidence from reputable sources which supports this idea, then by all means share it with us.

Military Connection | "Centcom Releases Report on Chinook Tragedy"

Small Wars Journal | "CH-47 Crash in Wardak Province, Afghanistan, Investigation Completed"

 

I'm sorry. You guys just don't understand that payback was done on those Seals and those Seals were chosen because their government gave them up. Making a movie about a military branch is one thing. Giving the enemy a covert units identiy and then having that unit in harms way never mind sending them off in an out dated helicopter in a planned ambush against them is
the worse form of international politics.

 

I'm sorry I should have typed in braille so even the blind could read it.

Did you know who reported it to the American media. Afghanistans.

The largest American loss in a single day over there.

"There was a CENTCOM investigation of the crash. CENTCOM is not a political body"
Um, you kidding me right. The Commander in Chief has direct and indirect power over everything military and will abuse that as long as the press looks the other way.

 

Ho hum; more evidence-free conspiracy-theory malarkey from my esteemed fellow member.

I don't know who's been feeding you this codswallop, or if you're just making it up, but as far as I can tell it's just so much foul-smelling hot air.

The story was first reported by CNN; the source of the story was two anonymous US officials.

 

They prefer the shadows and killing others, getting killed themselves is part of the deal. They know that. I was also going to mention that it was highly unlikely the Taliban knew who was in the 'copter as they were shot it down, besides the obvious "enemy", but Recussant filled that in already. I don't see them as being specifically targeted here.

 

I'm not saying that couldn't happen. I'm aware of a lot of shady activity by various units of the government and military... more specifically, individuals within those units...and it's not inconceivable (though unlikely) that they were set-up to be shot down... but the likelyhood is, if it were in fact true they were set-up, it was done in a way that allowed for plausible deniability, and is highly unlikely to be viewed by investigators as anything else. Hence, it falls into the realm of "conspiracy theories."

In order for your claim to be considered more than that, incontrovertable evidence needs to be presented. Who died? What had they done in their careers to merit being shot down? Who sent them on that mission? Who conceived the particulars of the mission? Who plotted their flight-plan? Why was the decision made to sacrifice them? Who was involved in that discussion? What countries were involved? etc.

As you can see, some of those questions are answerable, some are not. If standard procedures were followed, and things like the flight-plan were plotted in a typical way, the conclusion has to be that it wasn't the result of a conspiracy. If there is evidence that is atypical, such as the flight-plan being routed through an area deemed unsafe, or flying at an altitude that doesn't make sense, etc., then further inquiries need to made into the circumstances. Until then, this is considered typical during a time of war.

 

You could also ask, what was the purpose of sacrificing those troops? How could America benefit from that sacrifice? It's unlikely there is any.

 

Because it was not America who wanted it. By the way if a government offical outs a covert operation are they not usually labeled as traitors.

 

Andy you are what happens when hardline ideology meets stone cold reality...You simply take a hard right turn and just keep going.

 

Then who? Our military? A spy agency? A rival unit? And again, why? What was the benefit? It's awfully convoluted to me.

I'm also going to go back to the original claim for a minute. There's been something I've wanted to say, but I keep forgetting to when I'm online: lol

Now, I'm assuming the tie-in is to Obama revealing the unit, and that directly led to these troops getting killed? One point I'd like to make about that is... say Obama hadn't mentioned the unit... it would soon be known that an American unit had had the mission. The question on everyone's mind would be, "What unit?" So I have to ask, do you think it would have been possible to keep the unit's involvement in the Bin Laden raid secret for long?