Right-wing Criminals With Guns

You are advocating it here! Obviously you have time. I guess that is a benefit of having a government job.

 

Okay, when it comes to law, and sentencing guide lines, there is admittedly a lot of gray area. Sorry, but creating these types of laws has never been easy, so there will be flaws with it either way.

 

Mandatory minimum sentences only benefit the private for-profit prison system. An we get to pay for it.

 

This is just getting funnier and funnier.

Oregon militants brawl as friends beg them to go home: ‘You’re surrounded by informants’


Rumors and harsh facts arriving from outside the grounds of an Oregon nature preserve appear to be roiling the armed militants who have taken over a federal building in hopes of sparking an armed confrontation with government agents.



At least one of the militants, Joe “Capt. O” Oshaugnessy, left the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge amid drinking claims after arguing with participants over bringing their wives and children to the standoff, and another — Brian “Booda” Cavalier — left the compound after news reports revealed he had lied about serving in the military.

A former compatriot-turned-opponent claims one of the most prominent militants, Blaine Cooper, sucker-punched one of his friends — sending the counter-protester to the hospital with a concussion and serious facial injuries.

READ MORE: Tearful militant discovers friend drank away donation money

Lewis Arthur, who describes himself as an anti-violence patriot and head of the Veterans on Patrol activist group, said he arrived Wednesday with three other men to remove a “radicalized” and “suicidal” veteran who suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder and has a tendency toward violence when he’s placed under stress.

“We came up here to de-escalate the situation and to convince someone that having the federal government killing you is not going to make you a martyr, and the majority of the ‘patriots’ are pounding on their keyboards — they’re not going to rise up,” Arthur said in a video posted Thursday evening on Facebook.




Arthur said the 36-year-old Cooper, a former friend, attacked a member of his three-man crew during an argument over their mission to remove women, children and Ryan Payne — a U.S. Army veteran who has bragged about setting up sniper teams to target federal agents during the 2014 standoff at Bundy ranch.

“(Payne) made it very clear out there that he wanted the federal government to go and take him out,” Arthur said. “I had to come up here because I know what he wants.”

However, Cooper and other militants say Arthur, who set up a camp across the road from the nature preserve, initiated the fight by assaulting a guard and trying to enter the compound.

Jon Ritzheimer, the Arizona militiaman known for organizing anti-Muslim rallies, disputed that Payne hoped to become a martyr to the “patriot” cause and said Arthur was merely seeking “a couple of seconds of fame.”

John Hildinger, who was arrested on a Maryland firearms charge on his way to the anti-Obama “Operation American Spring” rally in 2013 and is well-known in the “patriot” movement, said he had been receiving damaging information about Cooper, Payne and Brian “Booda” Cavalier — all of whom he described as loose cannons — from multiple sources.

The 57-year-old Texan, who is not at the Oregon standoff, said in a pair of videos that he supported the cause — but he disagreed with their strategy and the leaders the militants had chosen.

He said Cavalier was a “mean motherf*cker” with multiple drunken driving convictions, and he said the Arizona tattoo artist had insinuated himself with the Bundy family and “scared off” anyone who tried to get close to them.

“You never served in the military and you said you did,” Hildinger said. “When you were called on it, you said, ‘I’m sorry they said that,’ and when someone stood up and said, ‘No no no, sir — we’re accusing you of stolen valor,’ you said, ‘You’ve got your job to do and I’ve got mine.’ Lying is not a job, sir — so you’re squashed. I’m glad I don’t know you.”

Hildinger said Payne was lying about serving as an Army Ranger and had three sealed criminal charges against him, and he cautioned the militants to stay away from him.

“You’re a liar, sir — and I have a special message,” Hildinger said menacingly. “Jay LeDuc says, ‘How’s that patch working out for you now, bitch?”

But he saved his harshest criticism for Cooper — who he accused of being a federal informant who got border militiaman Kevin “KC” Massey arrested on firearms charges.

“KC Massey is locked up, he’s still got 41 months to go, Blaine — and I have no doubt that it was your mouth that put him there,” Hildinger said. “I don’t know what KC thinks, but I’m sure that he hopes you live forever.”

WATCH: ‘Pissed as hell’ rancher blows up at Bundy militants, tells them ‘I’m not going let some other people be my face’

Hildinger said Cooper, whose real name is Stanley Blaine Hicks, had amassed 16 felonies under his birth name and another felony under his chosen name — which is the name of Jesse Ventura’s character in the 1987 movie “Predator.”

Those include multiple counts of assault — both with and without a deadly weapon — and making threats, along with several alcohol- and traffic-related offenses, and Hildinger accused Cooper of stealing thousands of dollars of photography equipment from the border militia’s Camp Lone Star.

“Everybody’s got a past, but goddamn, boy — you’re a habitual criminal,” Hildinger said.

Maureen Peltier, the disabled National Guardswoman who describes herself as the official spokeswoman for the militants, claimed in a Facebook post that the felony record belongs to Cooper’s father — but court records show Hicks was born in 1979, as Cooper was.

Hildinger said Cooper had failed to correct the inaccurate perception that he was a U.S. Marine veteran.

“F*ck you,” Hildinger said. “Hear me, Blaine — you’re a paid informant. You have no visible means of employment. You support a family, a house and you travel the country.”

He said Arthur and his friends had traveled from Arizona to collect a homeless veteran that Cooper and others intended to use to spark a violent confrontation with federal authorities.

“Blaine Cooper, you’re not smart enough to be an op,” Hildinger said. “You’re a paid informant — you’re there to get people killed.”

Hildinger urged Ritzheimer, who he considers a “badass Marine,” to cut ties with Cooper before he got them both in trouble or even killed.

“Jon has a family, a younger wife a little baby,” he said. “They were crying yesterday and they were talking to me about you, brother, but said you wouldn’t listen, you wouldn’t come home. You’re surrounded by informants.”

 

Oh, are those guys still trespassing at that deserted bird observatory?

 

Here the the bird sanctuary's website. Please note it is closed due to gunman on the premise not abandon.
http://www.fws.gov/refuge/Malheur/Alert/Closure.html
Trespassing? Deserted? Head in ass much? Oh YEH!

 

I haven't checked, but isn't there a statute of limitations on how long government can wait before it is too late to send them back to prison ? They have waited, I think, 5 years for the father, and 10 years for the son. This seems awfully late to decide on sending them back to prison.

 

http://kval.com/news/local/backgrou...-releases-on-hammond-case-in-october-december

 

Whatever else one might say of Finicum, he was a man of his word. No concrete walls for him.


"LaVoy Finicum: ‘I Would Rather Die Than Be Caged’"

 

His gold bullets didn't impress the feds.

 

I think the much, much greater issue is the First Amendment right to free assembly and free speech not whether or not there are petty crimes being committed by or inflicted on the [Oregon] protesters. More specifically, it states, that:

The First Amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion,abridging the freedom of speech,infringing on the freedom of the press,interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/occupy-movement-magnet-for-violence.4049/page-4

 

"Tarpman" got his wish some might say.


I wonder what "wisdom" was passed on to various foster children while he was alive.


Poor kids.


I would surmise they have had it worse than most of us here.


He whined about the government while making money from it.


Pathetic.



Poor kids.

 

A dripping, gushing, oozing, titled wave of Right-wing bias is not much of a persuasive argument.

 

Threatening to kill authorities isn't a right, it's a crime. One of the remaining right-wing terrorists asked other like-minded criminals to immediately come and join him at the sanctuary. He told them that, if anyone tried to stop them, kill them.

Again, that isn't free-speech, it's a criminal act.

 

The Hammonds are seeking clemency from Obama.

Ohhhhh, the irony...LOL

 

The wiki-link above indicates that the militants have left the refuge. That is unconfirmed, at this point.

 

Sigh. You were such an idealistic, little whatever-you-are back in 2011 when you said those very "Right-wing" words about the violent Occupy movement. What's the difference between the Oregon Occupiers and the Wall Street Occupiers when we're talking about the redress of grievances and First Amendment rights? Isn't that what both groups are asking for? Of course, the Flea Baggers were violent whereas the Oregon Occupiers had violence inflicted upon them.

Do you remember saying this?

 

When it comes to redress of grievances (guaranteed by the First Amendment, btw), I doubt this will be the end of this story. There are always people who are willing to stand up for their First Amendment rights.

I'm not so sure about Occupying public buildings as a proper way to petition for those grievances but, hey, it seemed to work for Occupy Wall Street so why not?

 

The willingness to kill, fool.

 

Yep! OWS led to 32 deaths. Oregon occupiers killed none.