Republicans STILL have no Alternative to Obamacare.

Obvious to most of us.

So now you are admitting it is good? Then why was it bad to you and Congress (democrats) when the Republicans proposed it? Why isn't it universal?

Now it is your turn. Just what kind of sane individual could possibly believe that taxing something could possibly lower its cost and increase efficiency?

 

Still can't list a GOP alternative to the ACA. You fail.

 

The best alternative to Obamacare, and frankly, the most successful health care system ever is/was buyers choice, in that, you, me, and anyone else can choose our own medical plan and doctor. This is called the free market place, where we, the individual make our own choice, just like when each one of us shop for anything else i.e. groceries, gas station, where to live, who to get into a relation ship with, where to work etc. Only people who don't trust individuals to make our own decisions don't like this plan.

 

So you want to return to the system where 50 million people couldn't get access to health insurance. A system that was seeing more and more people without access to health care coverage every year. A system where people were being denied coverage because they got sick. A system where millions of people didn't have access to even basic health care. A system where pregnancy was a reason to deny someone health care coverage. A system that capped coverage for things like cancer, bankrupted millions of Americans, saw record profits for health insurers based on denying claims, and saw the biggest bonuses ever paid to CEO's. The free market was failing miserably and people were dying as a result. It seems that you want people to die but keep your principles intact. Maybe the principle that all Americans deserve quality health care is one with a boatload more compassion and a heck of a lot less ideology.

 

Gosh, well first, how many of those "50 million" people without "health care" didn't want it in the first place (like me)? 2nd, how many people are now being denied basic coverage because they still can't afford it? And finally, where on earth is this style of health care successful? It certainly isn't in Cuba, Canada, Europe, Africa etc.

 

You missed;
How many were/are illegal aliens?

 

So it is your observation that people didn't want health care not that they didn't have access to affordable health care? I do believe that there are societal sponges that don't want to pay for health care but have already used it and will inevitably use it in the future. I'm hope that there are few of those sponges in this country as possible. They are takers of the worst kind only exceeded by the takers that want something for free and also want to complain about those of us that refuse to let them be lazy spongers. Second, health care is subsidized for low income people so there is no reason to live without basic health care. Oh, unless you happen to live in a red state that the Republican governor has turned down coverage for expanded medicaid coverage purely out of political spite over the health of the poorest citizens in the state. Finally, every industrialized western country and many third world countries have single-payer models far more under government control than our system is with far better health outcomes then the US. Calling the US a great health care system is an ignorant statement. We rank 37th after Costa Rica.

World Health Organization Ranking; The World’s Health Systems
1 France
2 Italy
3 San Marino
4 Andorra
5 Malta
6 Singapore
7 Spain
8 Oman
9 Austria
10 Japan
11 Norway
12 Portugal
13 Monaco
14 Greece
15 Iceland
16 Luxembourg
17 Netherlands
18 United Kingdom
19 Ireland
20 Switzerland
21 Belgium
22 Colombia
23 Sweden
24 Cyprus
25 Germany
26 Saudi Arabia
27 United Arab Emirates
28 Israel
29 Morocco
30 Canada
31 Finland
32 Australia
33 Chile
34 Denmark
35 Dominica
36 Costa Rica
37 USA

 

Interesting rating. I wonder what criteria they used. However, the prime minister of Canada had to come to USA to get treated and they line up at Buffalo. And if you would listen to the news, the doctors in Great Britain are on strike. Oh, and their average waiting times (before the strike);
The number of patients facing lengthy delays for vital cancer tests and heart scans has quadrupled in the last year.

Last month around 12,500 people waited six weeks or longer for hospital checks to diagnose tumours and other serious illnesses.

This compares to 3,500 who were waiting more than six weeks in the same period last year, according to Department of Health figures.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...eeks-tests-quadruples-year.html#ixzz3x4BEMvH0
Waiting lists for potentially tests which can detect cancer have doubled in a year and are at a six year high, new figures show.

Crucial procedures such as colonoscopy - used to detect bowel and stomach cancers - and MRI and CT scans used to find tumours, are supposed to be undertaken within six weeks of a GP referral.

But the latest figures show in May this year alone more than 18,000 patients waited longer than that - more than double the number at this point last year.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...six-weeks-vital-procedures.html#ixzz3x4BWF3AI
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Sounds like they have great systems there - until they need the that is. BTW, my wife have to wait about an hour for her cat scan and I waited less than it took me to get to the hospital. i.e. we knew within hours what our diagnoses were.

 

There are several ways to rank quality health. For example, you could have a healthier liver than your neighbor, but your neighbor could have healthier lungs, so which of you is healthier, overall? Statistics are often misleading when only examining parts of the equation instead of the whole. The best way to stay safe and healthy for anyone is to avoid drugs, alcohol, over eating, illicit sex, dangerous people/animals, and have good heredity. This is a big challenge for many, but you get out of life what you put into it whether or not this is unfair.

 

When something is not broke, don't fix it. The spoliators you support break things then pretend to fix them, or blame someone else for breaking them. Well, this is what Obama care is-a broken, tired out system authoritarians blame someone else for breaking, and always pretend to fix it them self, which they can't.

 

There is always an alternative to Obamacare - like paying for your own health insurance.

 

Yeh, but you still have to deal with the fact that your insurer can't cancel your policy for getting sick, you have to deal with the fact that preventative medical procedures are now covered, you have to deal with birth control being covered for women, of heck, you just never get away from Obamacare.

 

That is because BO vetoed that bill!