To what degree do you think this is true?

Speaking of not too bright, I referenced liberal cities . . . not states.

 

name a bunch of right wing cities.

 

Admirable Mopar Dude.

 

You say that like there’s no such thing . . . Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Tampa, San Antonio, Lincoln, Wichita, Memphis . . .

 

and they have the same problems any other big city has. another goose egg

 

Weird so many purportedly right wing cities would elect Democrat mayors.

SLC - Erin Mendenhall (D)
Phoenix - Kate Gallego (D)
Tampa - Jane Castor (D)
San Antonio - Ron Nirenberg (I, progressive platform)
Lincoln - Leirion Baird (D)
Wichita - Brandon Whipple (D)
Memphis - Jim Strickland (D)

Got any others?

 

Indeed, those are still conservative cities, but they are being overrun.

That’s the problem with this country recently . . . As the generations who sacrificed to build this nation die off, those who refuse to do without have become the majority. The cancer grows . . .

 

Their problems are just not nearly so severe . . .

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

poor toughie

 

Why poor me? I have constitution enough to do without when the government cannot continue to give everyone all that they ask for. I’ll be fine, as will others like me.

Save your sympathy for those who will need it. The USA is becoming a nation of whiney, expectant whimps.

 

Former conservative cities would be the right term. "Overrun" is an interesting word to use. Overrun by other Americans?



The "problem" you see is a generational one. I see it as boomers struggling with millennials reaching electability age. I imagine someday millennials will be the "conservative" ones as a new generation comes into power. This has happened many times before and I'm fairly sure it will continue.

 

That's what I thought before I got to the part about cancer. Fellow Americans that are growing hoards of "those who refuse to do without" that are just "cancers" overrunning "the generations who sacrificed to build this nation" in his humble opinion? I see. I didn't know. Please! Go on. You were saying?

 

Some folks just won't let go of the fact that Ward Cleaver is dead.

 

So are his opportunities


and Aint Bee has been gone for decades

 

Yup, you're right, but the real reason millenials will eventually be the conservative ones is that wisdom rarely comes to the young, but you're a smart cookie . . . you'll get there.

By the way, there's a pretty stark contrast in taxpayer debt between liberal cities, and "former" conservative cities . . .

$63K New York
$37K Chicago
$26K Philadelphia
$26K Honolulu
$19K New Orleans
$18K Portland
$17K San Francisco

___ Salt Lake City (Did not find a figure)
$6K Phoenix
$4K Memphis
$1K Wichita
$1K San Antonio
($2K) Tampa (Yes, that's right . . . a surplus)
($3K) Lincoln ( . . . and another)

 

Boy that's a load off my mind there toughcoins. People like yourself will do just fine.
How sure are you about that?

I guess I'm part of the cancer as I refuse to do without as it were.

The thing I've been steadfastly refusing to give up is life.
I suppose I could just suck it up and die but some part of me doesn't want to. Silly me, I guess I'm being daft and selfish in my desire to continue living.

Perhaps I should volunteer for the soylent green program.

Until disability I worked all of my life. Not rich by any means but comfortable.

My first serious illness came in my 20's. A blood clot in my leg that if it broke probably would have killed me.

I was managing a gas station at the time. My wife and I lived on the third floor in an apartment.
My leg had been bothering me but I worked until the day I was hospitalized.
That day I woke up and could barely walk. My wife took me to the ER where I was diagnosed and sent IMMEDIATELY to another hospital for treatment.

I lived and the food was decent. I had decent insurance through work and was soon back to work and taking blood thinners. I was able to pay what insurance didn't cover so I was no burden on society. I never intended to be.

My second bad illness was a little worse and a lot more painful. I was in my early 30's and having really bad abdominal and back pain.
I worked in a truck stop at the time and began leaving work just a few hours into my shift as I just couldn't handle it.

Went to the doctor and lo and behold I had five cysts on my pancreas. One the size of a baseball.
Major surgery required, 10 days in the hospital and over a month to recover.

My insurance wasn't nearly as good but as fate would have it my dad was gracious enough to die not too long before this leaving each of us five kids a bit of money.
Medical bills ate mine up but again, I was no burden on society.

Then I sailed along pretty smoothly until I was in my early 50s. As many Americans (especially men) I had no insurance. Not something that comes with too many jobs these days and not affordable.

Then one day I started having abdominal pain. It was getting worse and I had a real good idea what it was. I tried to keep working and I was waiting for the Affordable Care Act to kick in.
I missed A LOT of work leading up to this and finally one day I told my wife I just couldn't take it anymore so she took me to the ER.

My thoughts were true. A bad pancreas attack that landed me in the hospital for 4 days.
Not long after I got a bill for $13,000 that I didn't have.
I worked out a payment plan, worked a few programs and paid it off.
I guess this is when I started to become somewhat of a burden on society.

My next adventure happened on my day off. I had a doctor's appointment (which my wife cancelled) because I got up to take care of my "morning business" and it was full of blood. Oh joy!
Back to the ER. An aneurysm going into my bowels.
I was put in ICU then shipped to Chicago.
Again I lived and the food was decent.

This time I had insurance but not the greatest (yes, ACA does need some work). The biggest problem was that I was taken across state lines for treatment.
The other option was Indianapolis but by the time they would have gotten me there I probably would have died.
Blame the doctors this time for having the gall to save my life.

Not long after that I fell and snapped my femur in half. Just an innocent fall and nothing more.
Had that replaced and missed several weeks of work

My boss suggested I apply for unemployment and he would have no problem with it.
So I did. Nothing like jumping through hoops when you're using a walker.

I finally ended up signing up for disability. Jumped through the hoops and qualified.

I was on Medicaid for a while and a good thing too. As I ended up in the hospital with a few more bouts of pancreatitis, congestive heart failure, a few bouts of serious water retention (which is where the congestive heart failure gets a hold) and a lovely episode of diabetic ketoacidosis.
That earned me another jaunt in ICU and nearly killed me.

Then my gastroenterologist noticed something. Had a VERY long MRI and he referred me to a specialist in Indianapolis to see one of the world's best on this particular issue.

My wife and I ended up going down there 5 times so I could get procedures done. He had to blast a rather large stone out of my pancreas amongst other things.
Total bill? About $250,000.

I rushed these procedures before my disability "settlement" kicked in because I would have had to pony up 20% of that which I by no means have.

Hell, I sold off a lot of my coins just to continue day to day living.

My goal for 2020 was to NOT end up in the hospital and thanks in large part to my cardiologist I didn't. That's another story but I'll just say she's a lovely lady.


Now while all this was going on my wife has suffered two strokes. One landed her in Chicago.


You might think differently (if you're severely "tetched in the head") but these things were never in our planss.

To make it worse we just don't have the decency to die so as to not be burdens on society.

"Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism"?

Try my reality for a spell and see if your view doesn't change a bit.

 

b-b-but BOOTSTRAPS...OR YA COULDA WENT TO YER CHURCH!

 

Clembo, your reality has unquestionably been harder on you than mine on me or than it has been on most others I know, many of whom still unabashedly seize every opportunity to milk the nation of its resources.

And that is the problem . . . it is not the truly needy who my comments are aimed at. It is the unjustly "entitled" who won't deny themselves anything that they can squeeze from the coffers of others via taxation by the government. It's their way of dipping their hands into the pockets of others. They think they're smarter than those of us who don't want those programs. They're not smarter than us . . . they're just unashamed.

There are those who need the help, and you are among those, but there are also the members of the growing parasitic class who detract from society's ability to address the needs of the truly needy. Eliminate the ability of the undeserving to game the system, and the system will work better for those it was created for.

While my comments are general in nature, my intent should be unmistakable. I am truly sorry you've had such a hard life . . . no one deserves that.

 

I have to ask. What people are pleading for in this country is a better life for themselves, their kids, their neighbors, and their communities. If these people shouldn't ask their government to find a way to make their lives better, who should they ask? Because people, generally, have always looked to their leaders to make our collective lives better. Always. That's kind of what we elect them to do and then pay them to do. It's why we have elections. Am I missing something here or are you excusing any and all accountability for those we elect?

And that is the problem . . . it is not the truly needy who my comments are aimed at. It is the unjustly "entitled" who won't deny themselves anything that they can squeeze from the coffers of others via taxation by the government. It's their way of dipping their hands into the pockets of others. They think they're smarter than those of us who don't want those programs. They're not smarter than us . . . they're just unashamed.