Get ready you democrats for what you asked for!

The Biden push to force you and me into electric cars is coming with the new emission standards. Guess where most of the batteries come from? This is all being done in spite of what most Americans want. We are not ready for what is going to be forced on us.

 

Hey @JoeNation & @GeneWright

What percent of the materials needed to make the batteries for electric cars?

A, Under 40%
B. 50% to 60%
C. 60% to 70%
D. &0% to 80%
F. Over 80%

Maybe Gene can find a pie chart!

 

Hey dems, you got your wish. The auto makers are going to eliminate the AM radio band in car radios to keep conservatives as ignorant as you.

 

Mainstream America is about to tell its democrat leadership to stick it up its collective backside.

It's not like we couldn't see this slow-motion train wreck coming. All we had to do was look in the right direction . . . the unpopular one.

 

Better stock up on incandescent light bulbs too. Retail stores are being forbidden to sell them.

I know, you dems did not vote for any of this. You were not given a vote. You voted for the folks to put their boot on the neck of all of us. Thanks for being so stupid.

 

I disagree. The state of this country in the next few months will make sure that the Marxists will stay in power forever. We've been cooked! The last election was the only chance to continue digging out of the hole by continuing with MAGA.

 

I think a lot of Americans are very quietly, quite suddenly, and most ashamedly recognizing that their NIMBY ways have put us smack in the crosshairs of other nations long wanting to knock America down a few pegs.

That the Democrat Party put us here by proxy of their constituents doesn’t change the fact that the voters are ultimately responsible for letting themselves be talked into a wishful fairytale vision that could not last. The voters know it, and are slowly coming around.

Is it too late to reverse the damage? Probably . . . Certainly in the near term.

Is it too late to do something about the cause of the damage? No, and unseating Democrats is the fastest way to that end.

 

The dems and RINO's have the peddle to the floor running this country into the a third word nation. Who would think that toilet paper and baby formula would be unavailable in this country EVER! They don't have enough electricity in this country to prevent brownouts yet "they" are going to force us into electric cars and the carmakers are all in! 95% of American citizens are blind to the who cooked we are? I predict that Taiwan will be a Chinese rice bowl before X-mas. That will wake us up so we will all know we done and cannot do anything about it.

 

Okay, but why would you even want them? LED bulbs are better in basically every way. They don't explode, last way longer, use less power (save you money), just as bright (brighter if designed that way). I literally can't think of any reason to want a non-LED bulb.

 

LED lights don't last way longer if you don't leave them on when you don't need them. They are tight-tolerance devices, much more cycle-sensitive than incandescents are, and die off faster if turned off routinely when leaving the room, so they actually take much more money out of the consumer's pocket than they save. I cannot count the number of times I've sworn over the short 12 or 15 month life of an LED bulb guaranteed to last 5, 10, or even 12 years. I stopped returning them under warranty after 3 or 4 trips to exchange them, and this is for all brands of LED bulbs, and not just for one brand name. This is yet another short-sighted, incompletely-vetted "solution", faux pax of the Green movement.

I've run up against the same issue on the engineering side, while designing an LED-based lighting product for one of my past employers. The market insisted we develop one, so we did, and they insisted we guarantee 10 years of life before replacement. A 5 year guarantee was reluctantly offered with the product, and I think it still takes profits out of that former employer's pocket regularly.

 

Bad luck, user error, etc. I've literally never replaced a single LED bulb, they've never gone bad on me. Besides, they don't even cost more than incandescents now. Even if they don't make the 10 years, they still last much longer than incandescents and use far less power.

 

Well…. To a miserly fellow like me…. I have four of those fixtures in my bathroom that each takes three bulbs. As the incandescent bulbs burn out, I replace them with the new LED bulbs. My wife hates me because I refuse to change all twelve bulbs so they burn the same. I can’t make myself throw out something till it’s busted.

 

There’s many reasons to use incandescent bulbs. I don’t know where you are buying LEDs cheaper (South Korea?) but in my neck of the woods they at least twice the price. I’ve never had one last over two years. How do you measure in real life how long they last? How long have you lived in one place? Incandescent bulbs produce heat and are used in brooders, well houses, and other small buildings to keep plumbing from freezing. They are necessary for older cars to make the turn signals work correctly. They are still used in certain applications in new vehicles. I’ve never had an incandescent bulb explode if the correct type was used properly.

 

STUPID ME. I guess it might be the fact that when I break one I need to notify the EPA to send in a team to clean it up. Otherwise, I thought I lived in a free country where my government did not decide what car I drive, what range to cook on, how much water I could flush, what temperture to cool my house...etc BY EXECTIVE ORDER FROM A CORRUPT COMPROMISED ADNINISTRATION OF SOCIALIST CONTROLL FREAKS THAT I DID NOT VOTE FOR. That should be simple enough to understand.

Now son, As a mature, educated grown man who answers your questions, I wish you woud do likewise when I question you. It is a sign of character, respect, and shows that you were raised by good parents who made sure you were educated properly.

 

You don't know what an LED is

 

Stupid me, I use light bulbs. The only LEDS I have are tiny little lights on my 32 x47 O guage train layout with an On3 lumber area.

 

Cheap Korean incandescent bulbs fail much quicker than a good quality GE, Philips or Sylvania incandescent light bulb. Same goes for LEDs. I will pay more for a Philips than a "Green Me" off brand. A good quality LED over it's life time pays for itself verses the cost of incandescent bulbs in change out cycles and energy cost.

Edit: To get back to the point. I use LEDs because it saves me money. In the log haul, incandescent lamps will get expensive due to a diminishing market. I've experienced this in trying to find replacements for high wattage lamps that are no longer sold here. I can buy from overseas but it's not worth the cost. As far as the Greenie Crap goes, that's BS.

 

Sorry, I misspoke about LED lights being cycle-sensitive. LED drivers can be, if not quality drivers. The inexpensive LED lamps therefore often fail prematurely. Good ones do typically far outlast incandescents.

CFL lighting (not the subject of this discussion) is what I was thinking of, inherently being more cycle-sensitive than incandescents. I was enormously frustrated with those repeatedly failing on me when shooting photos for my listings.

Still,you’re young, and likely didn't buy / use quality incandescents yourself before LED bulbs became the focus of the best manufacturers in the lighting marketplace. When the best manufacturers were making only incandescents, they were great lighting. Now, almost all of the incandescents are made by second rate manufacturers mopping up the remains of a dwindling market.

One of the weaknesses of LED lighting is the sheer number of LED fixtures needed to shed the same intensity of light over the same area that an incandescent can. Incandescents are omnidirectional devices, while LEDs are unidirectional, with narrow beams within their intensity ratings, typically only 30 degrees of arc or less. That is very limiting and seldom illuminates much more than specific targets. Completely lluminating a given space is much more materially intensive with LEDs than with incandescents, and that will not change, even with improvements over time. If one can light an entire kitchen with two incandescents, but requires eight LED fixtures to do the same, where’s the advantage?

Yeah, thanks to the Green movement driving demand from superior incandescents to inferior LED lighting, the economies of scale have switched the cost and therefore pricing advantage away from incandescents toward LEDs, much like it is trying to do with electric cars (that market migration, however, will be a much more daunting challenge, producing far more serious unforeseen consequences).

Agreed, they use far less power on a per lamp basis, but not when looking at the total area to be illuminated.

 

To be fair, what I remember most was CFLs trying to replace incandescents. We had some in my house, but I don't like them either. I seem to remember they got brighter over time, and weren't nearly as good as promised.

With LEDs however, I haven't noticed a difference since replacing incandescents with them. Their lumens are just as good or better than incandescents, and they're filled with reflective surfaces to solve the issue of light angle. I also think they're cheaper in part because the technology for them is so cheap and widely distributed (at least compared to the relatively expensive CFLs).


All this to say I disagree that LEDs are inferior bulbs. If nothing else, it sounds like we can agree CFLs suck!

 

To get more scientific on you (as if you can't take it), lumens of light is a measure of intensity, not a measure of total light shed by the device.

An incandescent bulb sheds specified light over nearly 360 degrees of arc (excluding perhaps 30 degrees for the stem of the bulb).

An LED sheds specified light over roughly 30 degrees of arc (that's a cone for a bulb style LED, or a wedge for a filament style LED).

The intensity of the light measured at the target distance is represented by the lumens. If mirrors / lenses are employed to spread the lumens of a narrower beam over a larger target area, the intensity drops accordingly. Thus, LEDs are quite obviously at a serious disadvantage when it comes to applications requiring the global illumination of surroundings.