So what's the feeling on Vance?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by GeneWright, Jul 17, 2024.

  1. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Do you guys like him? Hate him? Do you wish Trump had picked someone else? Did you like Vance before this?

    What do you think Vance brings to the table?
     
  2. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    EVERYTHING NO DEMOCRAT YET BRINGS. And, if you and your ilk do not know his life story and what he has done and overcome to get where he is ... well, you know the "I" word.

    Here is a question for you and the troll who craps a thread and leaves without answering a direct question:

    Why so quiet? Lots going on. Will you vote for nobama's wife when they dump the stump?
     
  3. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN All I can do is shake my head....

    One thing that has been sorely missing in the current administration, common sense. He blends well with Trump in that aspect.

    Here is a fellow that was against Trump in the beginning, but saw what he did for this country and his mind changed. How refreshing.
     
  4. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Hmm that is the angle I've been seeing. Tough to imagine seeing the light on someone you once referred to as potentially "America's Hitler" though.

    Personally I think Trump just likes to make people who have outwardly opposed him bend the knee.
     
  5. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Why not Pence?

    Anyone else think it's weird the former VP won't talk at the convention? What about the living former Republican President? They usually show up to these types of things.
     
  6. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    It really doesn't matter. At least, according to your father it doesn't. Let's read what he had to say:

    I would suggest you seek the answers to your questions from him.

    http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/biden-selects-harris.51702/#post-277026
     
  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    I think it is more a situation of what can be, unburdened by what has been; however, what has been has been a burden and it is possible that in order to be unburdened because of what has been , it is sometimes better to consider what can be, if we unburden from what has been.

    I don't know, though...because as we all know, life is sometimes a burden.

    Oh well...maybe my personal common sense is burdening my thinking, and I need to unburden myself from my personal.common sense. I am starting to be repetitive, so I think I have spent enough energy unburdening myself to the members.

    I am tired now........
     
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  8. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Wow! Reading that, I thought I was listening to some Kamala-isms.
     
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  9. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    OK, I had to search YouTube about Scamala Harris. She is quite unburdened. Caution, if you listen to this entire video, your ears will bleed:

     
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  10. I'm a fan of Vance, I read his book a year or two ago and it really made me respect him. I think the fact that he's below retirement age is nice, as well.
     
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  11. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    :rolleyes: Figures, Uninformed people don't have the luxury much of anything. That's why they believe it is impossible for a person to change their mind about something when they HAVE THE COURAGE to become informed.
     
  12. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Vance is a good man but he will never be portrayed that way by the media. I hate to say this but I am much reminded of a young Dan Quayle that was never able to overcome his negative press. And he too was a good man.
     
  13. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    They are the past. They had their time in the limelight. Besides, both of them are "downers."
     
  14. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Harris . . . Oh God

    Unburdened by what I have not been
    . . . What in the world can I be?


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  15. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Did you guys like the Trump speech? Mostly what I'm hearing is "boring" and way too long, which tracks for what I watched.
     
  16. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Well, looking through a liberal filter, you're more inclined to see things pessimistically.

    I found the speech heartfelt, compelling and riveting.

    There are few occasions that I ever agree with liberal Democrat Doug Schoen, but in this case he's right on the money:


    Trump did something he's never done before with RNC speech. Now, the election may already be over

    I may be a Democrat, but I'm also a clear-eyed political analyst. Donald Trump clearly rose to the occasion with his RNC speech

    [​IMG] By Doug Schoen Fox News
    Published July 19, 2024 1:39am EDT

    Donald Trump may well have sealed the outcome of the 2024 election with a performance on Thursday night in Milwaukee that has largely been unmatched in recent American political history.

    The former president eschewed the polarization and division that has marked much of his rhetoric in the past. In his speech officially accepting the Republican Party's nomination there were only a couple of references to the 2020 election. Trump was able to hit on key messages when speaking about topics like inflation, and especially immigration, in ways that were compelling and arguably responsive to the fundamental concerns of Americans.

    I say this not to engage in hyperbole, as I have never been – and am not now – a Trump supporter. But as a political analyst, you have to acknowledge reality. And the reality of this speech was simple: Trump spoke of the American Dream, he spoke of bringing people together, he spoke of helping African-Americans, Hispanics and those who have been left behind.

    In short, Trump did something he has virtually never done before: speak to all the American people. As he said, he wanted to speak not to 50 percent but to 100 percent of the American people.

    Trump also understood that this was not a time to attack President Joe Biden personally or even by name. His one reference to Biden was an aside to let the crowd in Milwaukee, and indeed around the country, know what he was thinking at a time when the incumbent president is still reeling from his poor debate performance and from COVID, not to make him appear like a victim. Rather, Trump was able to compellingly crystallize the challenges the American people have with the current administration and offer a degree of reassurance that things would be different under his leadership.

    To be sure, Trump did not offer specific policy recommendations in his speech beyond closing the border and cutting taxes. But rather there was a degree of optimism and confidence in his remarks that has been noticeably absent from the darker and more pessimistic speeches the 45th president of the United States has delivered over the years.

    He also, in a way that was tasteful and empathetic, spoke about what happened to him last Saturday in Butler Township, Pa. He discussed his experience of the assassination attempt in a way that had me on the edge of my chair, even though I knew the story quite well and had seen the video many times.

    Put another way, the entire speech and its production made Trump much more likable and much more sympathetic than he’s ever been before.

    To be sure, circumstances, however difficult and challenging they may have been to get to this point, worked to help the former president. But, by any measure, he rose to the occasion and offered the American people something profound that has been missing under the current administration: hope, strength and a sense that the best was yet to come for our nation.

    I fully expect Trump to increase his standing in the polls as a result of this week. I say that not only because of his Thursday night address, but also because of the entire convention. It was among the best, if not the best, choreographed and produced shows I have seen in 50 years of watching American political conventions.

    The effort to reach working people and those who enjoy sports like pro-wrestling and the UFC spoke to the Republicans' desire to broaden their constituency and solidify their position as the party of working Americans.

    I also believe that, if I am right, and Trump does go up in the polls after the GOP convention, the support that has been steadily eroding for Joe Biden since his terrible debate performance just three weeks ago, will only increase, and the pressure on him to quit the race will be inexorable. Indeed, it already appears now to be inevitable.

    It's hard to see how Joe Biden, Kamala Harris or whoever the Democratic nominee is will compete with this speech and the events of this week. And I fully expect that the division inside the Democratic Party will only increase as a result of the success of the Republican convention.

    As an American, I’m pleased, indeed proud, that the Republicans explicitly – and, I think, for the first time – are seeking to unify the entire country and put aside the bitterness and resentment that has so frequently been evident.

    As a Democrat, I’m not sure I know how my party will respond in a month or so to the Trump candidacy. For now, it’s enough to say that the challenges it is facing have only grown larger and more substantial after this week after a speech and convention that could only be called an unqualified success. The events and address in Milwaukee will stand up well to whatever attempts the mainstream media make to discredit Trump and his speech. (And they have already begun.)

    Some may say that Trump’s speech went on too long on Thursday night. And that may be true. But the American people, unlike political commentators, simply turn the television off, they don’t give the candidate demerits for being long-winded.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tru...fore-rnc-speech-now-election-may-already-over
     
  17. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    It was basically just the "greatest hits" he's been doing at rallies all year. He even invoked his favorite "late, great, Hannibal Lecter" as he so often does.

    That's odd, he's been spewing your talking points as controlled opposition for at nearly 2 decades now.
     
  18. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    With those liberal lenses you're wearing, that's all you can see. Take them off and see the light.

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  19. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    What was your favorite part?
     
  20. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    For me, it was probably when he walked over and kissed the helmet of the retired firefighter who was killed. Very moving indeed.

    What was your favorite part?
     

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