Breaking: Court Chooses To Hear “Birther” Case On Ted Cruz’s Eligibility For Presidency

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Breaking: Court Chooses To Hear “Birther” Case On Ted Cruz’s Eligibility For Presidency

ByColin Taylor
Posted on February 19, 2016

The implicitly racist “birther” phenomenon that attempted to discredit Barack Obama’s eligibility for the Presidency has come full circle and has finally claimed a victim – except this time, it’s a Republican. It couldn’t have chosen a more appropriate victim than Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX), the despised religious extremist and iconoclastic anti-government radical. Ever since Ted Cruz and current Republican front-runner Donald Trump turned against each other, Trump has been whipping up a birther frenzy – and has threatened his own lawsuit – against the Canadian-born Senator in an effort to discredit his biggest rival. Turns out that frenzy is going to have its day in court.

Lawrence Joyce, a Ben Carson supporter, has been granted a hearing by Judge Maureen Ward Kirby of the Cook County Circuit Court to hear arguments against Ted Cruz’s eligibility to be on the Illinois primary ballot next month. Cruz insists that he is eligible since his mother is an American citizen, but there is no precedent for this under constitutional law and the issue is still murky.

Joyce explained that “what I fear is that Ted Cruz becomes the nominee, come September, Congressman Alan Grayson of Florida will go forward with his threats and probably several other Democrats will file suit to prevent Ted Cruz from being on the ballot. And at that point, I fear they’ll get a string of victories in the lower courts and the funding for Ted Cruz would dry up, his numbers would plummet in the polls, he may be forced to give up the nomination.”

It is deliciously ironic to see a Republican candidate caught up in the nativist purity test that Republican voter base has been trained to demand by foolish Republicans seeking to delegitimize President Obama’s historic achievements. It’s even funnier since Cruz’s own father, the notably deranged Rafael Cruz, espoused birtherism himself when he said that “I’d like to send [Pres. Obama] back to Kenya, back to Indonesia.”

Sen. Ted Cruz is a hated and malicious figure with little regard for anything but his own ambition. He made his fame on division and spite rather than unity and leadership; he is more known for his outrageous lies and disgusting hypocrisy. It would be beautifully poetic if he made it this far only to be devoured by the ravenous beast of xenophobic nationalism that he himself helped cultivate.

 

Ted Cruz a deranged sociopath??? If true what does that make Hillary the harridan? An ax murderer!

 

Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

Right "Ted"?

 

You mean you finally learned that!

 

Kids.

 

Well, maybe not.

 

Well, I'm sure you've convinced yourself that this little conversation was worth the effort. To me, it's run it's course....in that I'm convinced you're lonely and need this "adversarial component" in your life.

I don't, though I do admit that I enjoy analyzing your responses. From my point of view, knowing the best of us is moot without knowing the worst of us. Not that you're the worst of us, of course...out of the people here, COKC has that dishonor...imo.*

 

So, I see they finally adjusted your medications. Now, are you going to stay on them this time?

 

Good. Get it over with.

 

Just for the record, Ted Cruz is a naturalized American because his mother had legal citizenship despite birthing Ted off land. Even John MCcain was born off land in Panama, and no one questioned his citizenship when he campaigned to be president because his father was an American citizen, so enough of this phony citizen nonsense!

 

Actually, they did. Not as vociferously, but they did.

 

I think the term you're looking for is natural born citizen, which is the term used in the Constitution. A naturalized citizen is one that was born outside the US to citizens of another country, who emigrates to the US and applies successfully for citizenship, and who then participates in a naturalization ceremony.

 

Again, young Raf's father was not a citizen of the U.S. If his father was a citizen, I wouldn't be making that distinction. The reason I do is because of the phrase below:

Now, if that has been amended since 1790, in a way that removes the restriction in bold (above), then my point is moot.

If not, if the phrase is still law, then young Raf may not be a citizen of the U.S. at all, because his father may not have been a resident in the U.S. However, if his father had been a resident of the U.S. prior to young Raf's birth, he may qualify, though there are addition exclusions, one of which is the length of time his father had been in Canada before Raf's birth. If that length of time is more than a year, then young Raf may not qualify.

In other words, there is indeed a legitimate reason to verify his right to citizenship. The irony is delicious, considering his stance on illegal immigration.

 

Since he rescinded his Canadian citizenship, we may have to deport him to Cuba.

Wouldn't that be a hoot.

 

Does "natural born citizen" mean literally born on U.S. soil, or born to at least one legal U.S. citizen? According to constitutional researchers, the later is accepted. We can debate this, however. By the way, you seem knowledgeable at these issues. Are you also knowledgeable at medical advice? If so, I would like to ask you a medical related question.

 

There is this though:

and

 

My wife was born in Rome , Italy. Her father was a US citizen, her mother, an Italian citizen.
My wife is a citizen.
Not sure about Cruz.
Thus, I am glad the court will decide sooner than later.

 

Not sure what all the hubbub is about since Cruz's mother is a U.S. Citizen.

From Wikipedia:

Several lawsuits and ballot challenges asserting that Cruz is ineligible have been filed,[147][148][149][150][151][152] including one that pleaded, "Only the U.S. Supreme Court can finally decide, determine judicially and settle this issue now."[153] No lawsuit or challenge has been successful, and in February 2016 the Illinois Board of Elections ruled in Cruz's favor, stating, "The candidate is a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Canada to his mother who was a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

 

Opinions differ on this, with some hardliners insisting that only a child born to a couple who are both US citizens at the time of birth can be a natural born citizen, but even they usually say that the place of birth is not decisive, if the "both parents" qualification is met. Then there are those who cite Emerich de Vattel, who wrote (Book 1, Chapter 19, section 212) that "The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens." This is the most stringent definition of the term. However, Vattel was not a "founding father" and his writing is by no means the final word on interpreting the Constitution.

The more prevalent opinion is that at least one parent must be a citizen of the United States, if the child is born outside the country, or that a child born in the country, even to non-citizen parents, is a "natural born" citizen. A source that you will often see quoted by hardliners is the Heritage Foundation's "Guide to the Constitution." On the other hand we have the Congressional Research Service's paper on this topic: "Qualifications for President and the 'Natural Born' Citizenship Eligibility Requirement" (PDF)

According to some constitutional scholars, but certainly not all, as seen above.

I've already done so, more than once. I've only cited a few of the sources I'm aware of that have bearing on this topic, but overall I think that the Congressional Research Service paper presents a very good case.

Sorry, but I don't consider myself qualified to give medical advice on the internet, and if I were you, I would be very careful about accepting any medical advice given by somebody who was willing to do so on a message board, or anywhere else on the internet. If you're serious, I can try to help you do some research, but that would best be pursued via private messages, I think.