Diurnal Desynchronization/Winter Fugue

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by mimus, Feb 24, 2008.

  1. mixed nuts

    mixed nuts Guest

    Aratzio wrote:
    > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, in
    > alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG>
    > bloviated:
    >
    >>On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts
    >><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
    >>
    >>>mimus wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>
    >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>
    >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>
    >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>>>
    >>>>>the
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>>>
    >>>>>am finishing
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>>>
    >>>>>already dark . . . .
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>>>
    >>>>>glass
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>dig?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>>>
    >>>>>an
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>>>
    >>>>>(8.3
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Smee
    >>>>
    >>>>We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >>>>very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>>>
    >>>>You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >>>>firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>>>
    >>>><snit>
    >>>>
    >>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.
    >>>
    >>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >>>in any case.

    >>
    >>why? will he win a prize?

    >
    > Yeah, $3, ya dope.


    See the FAQ regarding payment of honoraria.

    --
    nuts
     
  2. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:34:23 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:02:01 -0800, <pscissons@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    >
    >>"dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
    >>news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com...
    >>
    >>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >
    >>> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >> wrote:
    >>> >>
    >>> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>
    >>> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus

    >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus

    >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus

    >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus

    >><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched

    >>the
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I

    >>am finishing
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's

    >>already dark . . . .
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in

    >>a glass
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.

    >>dig?
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>> >>>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>> >>>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>> >>>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>> >>>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>> >>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    >>> >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    >>> >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    >>> >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    >>> >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    >>> >>>>>>
    >>> >>>>>> so, neener.
    >>> >>>>>
    >>> >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    >>> >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    >>> >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    >>> >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells

    >>soup,
    >>> >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    >>> >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    >>> >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    >>> >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    >>> >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern

    >>for
    >>> >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    >>> >>>>
    >>> >>>> nyah!!!!!!
    >>> >>>> :p
    >>> >>>
    >>> >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.
    >>> >>
    >>> >> as well you should.
    >>> >
    >>> >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?
    >>>
    >>> not yet. maybe you should write them.

    >>
    >>My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't
    >>find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was
    >>pretty horrible. They don't make it any more.

    >
    > damn


    They might do a trout-stew.

    If not, you can probably find some gourmet cat-food and add water.

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    Prang-nuts is prang-nuts, right? Whether you find
    'em inna woods, or they're dispensed by a autofeeder.

    < Laumer
     
  3. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts
    > <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
    >
    >>mimus wrote:
    >>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>
    >>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>>
    >>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>>
    >>>>the
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>>
    >>>>am finishing
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>>
    >>>>already dark . . . .
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>>
    >>>>glass
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>>
    >>>>dig?
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>>
    >>>>an
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>>
    >>>>(8.3
    >>>>
    >>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>>
    >>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>>
    >>>>Smee
    >>>
    >>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >>> very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>>
    >>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>>
    >>> <snit>
    >>>

    >>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.
    >>
    >>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >>in any case.

    >
    > why? will he win a prize?


    They pay by the syllable, apparently.

    --
    tinmimus99@hotmail.com

    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

    < _The Einstein Intersection_
     
  4. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:13:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts
    >> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
    >>
    >>>mimus wrote:
    >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>
    >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>
    >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>
    >>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>>>
    >>>>>the
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>>>
    >>>>>am finishing
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>>>
    >>>>>already dark . . . .
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>>>
    >>>>>glass
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>dig?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>>>
    >>>>>an
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>>>
    >>>>>(8.3
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Smee
    >>>>
    >>>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >>>> very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>>>
    >>>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >>>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>>>
    >>>> <snit>
    >>>>
    >>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.
    >>>
    >>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >>>in any case.

    >>
    >> why? will he win a prize?

    >
    >They pay by the syllable, apparently.


    so, what yer saying is that ~they~ can be beneficial as well as being
    the source of all evil, right?

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  5. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:10:47 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:34:23 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:02:01 -0800, <pscissons@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    >>
    >>>"dave hillstrom" <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote in message
    >>>news:f4a7s3td7k45p0gk9fji7vmu5cmfnhffn0@4ax.com...
    >>>
    >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:38 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> >On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:58:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>> >
    >>>> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:38:44 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> >> wrote:
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>> >>>
    >>>> >>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:20:14 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> >>>> wrote:
    >>>> >>>>
    >>>> >>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:03:49 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> >>>>>> wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>the
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>am finishing
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>already dark . . . .
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in
    >>>a glass
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>dig?
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>> if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>> >>>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>> not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>> >>>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>> >>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>> ok, fellow geek, that depends. it depends on whether your IR
    >>>> >>>>>> receptors are ~sensitive~ enough to detect in that range. for
    >>>> >>>>>> instance, a high resolution IR imaging system that they now use on
    >>>> >>>>>> police copters would NOT be able to see a cold cup of coffee, as it
    >>>> >>>>>> blends PERFECTLY into the background ambient.
    >>>> >>>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>> so, neener.
    >>>> >>>>>
    >>>> >>>>>Pattern-recognition! neener right back!
    >>>> >>>>
    >>>> >>>> if the coffee and cup are at the same temp as ambient, and the handle
    >>>> >>>> of the cup is not at right angles to you direction of view, it will
    >>>> >>>> look like any of a number of nondescript things. it could be a rock,
    >>>> >>>> or a loaf of bread, or a jar of something, or a can of campbells
    >>>soup,
    >>>> >>>> or a pen holder, or a picture frame, or the shrunken head of a
    >>>> >>>> squarehead swede, or that cube in hellraiser, or a small box full of
    >>>> >>>> flesh eating beatles, ad infinitum, ad nauseum...
    >>>> >>>>
    >>>> >>>> even if the handle IS at right angles to your direction of view, you
    >>>> >>>> still wouldnt be able to tell whats in it, if anything.
    >>>> >>>>
    >>>> >>>> pattern recognition, which, as a slightly autistic person, i am quite
    >>>> >>>> familiar with on a personal basis, still needs cues in the pattern
    >>>for
    >>>> >>>> it to be recognizable from background noise.
    >>>> >>>>
    >>>> >>>> nyah!!!!!!
    >>>> >>>> :p
    >>>> >>>
    >>>> >>>Now I'm wondering what I drank this morning.
    >>>> >>
    >>>> >> as well you should.
    >>>> >
    >>>> >Does Campbell's make a coffee soup?
    >>>>
    >>>> not yet. maybe you should write them.
    >>>
    >>>My son, when quite small, once asked for sheep soup. Darned if we didn't
    >>>find Campbell's mutton broth on the shelf. For future reference, it was
    >>>pretty horrible. They don't make it any more.

    >>
    >> damn

    >
    >They might do a trout-stew.
    >
    >If not, you can probably find some gourmet cat-food and add water.


    thanks. youre so helpful, going out of your way to look up recipes
    for your omnivorous brethren.

    --
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    <This space for rent.>
     
  6. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:46:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:13:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts
    >>> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>the
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>am finishing
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>already dark . . . .
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>glass
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>dig?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>an
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>(8.3
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>Smee
    >>>>>
    >>>>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >>>>> very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >>>>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> <snit>
    >>>>>
    >>>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.
    >>>>
    >>>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >>>>in any case.
    >>>
    >>> why? will he win a prize?

    >>
    >>They pay by the syllable, apparently.

    >
    > so, what yer saying is that ~they~ can be beneficial as well as being
    > the source of all evil, right?


    They could be if They'd pay up.

    --
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    smeeter 11 or maybe 12

    mp 10

    mhm 29x13

    You want a job and a lizard to ride?

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  7. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:07:58 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:46:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >
    >> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:13:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts
    >>>> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>am finishing
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>already dark . . . .
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>glass
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>dig?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>an
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>(8.3
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>Smee
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >>>>>> very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >>>>>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> <snit>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >>>>>in any case.
    >>>>
    >>>> why? will he win a prize?
    >>>
    >>>They pay by the syllable, apparently.

    >>
    >> so, what yer saying is that ~they~ can be beneficial as well as being
    >> the source of all evil, right?

    >
    >They could be if They'd pay up.


    imagine. ~they~ have a tardy payables department.

    --
    dave hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj

    <This space for rent.>
     
  8. mimus

    mimus Guest

    On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:36:57 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:

    > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:07:58 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:46:43 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:13:16 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:44:42 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:26:16 -0500, mixed nuts
    >>>>> <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:03:54 -0800, pscissons wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>"mixed nuts" <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>news:fpve45$983$1@aioe.org...
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:10:20 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:02:07 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mixed nuts
    >>>>>>>>>>>><melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>mimus wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:21:33 +0000, Aratzio wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:33:46 -0500, in
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bloviated:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:08:24 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:15:37 -0500, mimus <tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:42:18 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:27:18 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:29:48 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:23:12 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:16:16 -0500, dave hillstrom wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:50:06 -0500, mimus
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>><tinmimus99@hotmail.com>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I overslept badly this morning, 'til almost noon-- watched
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>the
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Memphis-Tennessee game last night *hic*-- and *damn* here I
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>am finishing
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my usual third and final pint cup of coffee and it's
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>already dark . . . .
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The sun is gone! the sun is gone!
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><weep>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><slurp>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you need metal halide. thats what you need.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I take metal halide all the time.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Even throw a dashlet into the coffee basket.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>see, like, its all in the delivery. you need to stick it in a
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>glass
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>nodule and run electricity through it till it emits light.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>dig?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Um . . . at what temperature does coffee start glowing?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if yer on shrooms, room temperature.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And IF YOU CAN SEE IN THE INFRARED, IT ALWAYS DOES. Bah.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not if its been sitting around for a while.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey, if it's above O deg. K it's glowing.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Okay puzzle me this, what kind of detector would you use to detect
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>an
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>object that radiates at 0.00000001 degrees kelvin.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>An electron moving through a wide wide magnetic field.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>HAH
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>A detector which is somewhat colder and something like 10^7 seconds
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>(8.3
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>fortnights) to interact with some very low frequency photons.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>And how many photons will you be collecting?
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>Describe the radiator (of the order of a light-year in extent or larger)
    >>>>>>>>>>>and I could work out the specifics (if I felt like it).
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>The damn coffee cup.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>Too small. The peak of the blackbody curve for 1 nK is at a wavelength
    >>>>>>>>>of 2897.768 kilometers. You need something much bigger than that to
    >>>>>>>>>radiate efficiently as a blackbody - a light year or two would work
    >>>>>>>>>nicely. You would, of course, have to build a similarly sized
    >>>>>>>>>refrigerator to perform the measurement.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Ok, you guys are skating awfully close to maths. Cut it out or else.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>Smee
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> We're trying to play with very-low-energy, very-low-frequency,
    >>>>>>> very-long-wavelength photons.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> You can emit or capture photons of any energy, frequency and wavelenth by
    >>>>>>> firing free electrons through magnetic fields but no-one listens to me.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> <snit>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>"Firing" is hardly the word - dribble maybe.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>You should use $3 words like 'bremsstrahlung' or 'cyclotron radiation'
    >>>>>>in any case.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> why? will he win a prize?
    >>>>
    >>>>They pay by the syllable, apparently.
    >>>
    >>> so, what yer saying is that ~they~ can be beneficial as well as being
    >>> the source of all evil, right?

    >>
    >>They could be if They'd pay up.

    >
    > imagine. ~they~ have a tardy payables department.


    They have a standing offer to let you make your case to and hear the legal
    department laugh at you.

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