Gun Free Zones

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by snafu, Mar 4, 2008.

  1. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    I was just coming home from an eveving out with the family and friends when I heard Alice Cooper on his radio show talking about arming the teachers. He excalimed "I've heard of some really dumb stuff but the beats them all" Something to that effect. This is from a man with a womens name for Gods sake. How stupid is that?

    We need to wake up and see that gun free zones and gun laws only make victums.
     
  2. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    A nice little comentary from Ted Nugent:

     
  3. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    A gun free zone, sign is to whack jobs, what putting a sign on your business that says, "No Alarm or Surveillence System and The Money Is In The Back Office, Top Right Desk Drawer", is to a burgler.
     
  4. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    [ame= - Gun Free Zones - 1/2 Hour News Hour[/ame]
     
  5. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Maybe we should blame the public school system. Appearantly these people didn't learn to read the signs.
     
  6. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Ya, I have always thought gun control laws were stupid, if someone is already of the mind to use a gun to say rob someone, they are already over the edge and are taking the chance they will need to kill someone, why would a gun law scare them?

    Does the criminal say to himself "I want to go out an rob someone at gunpoint but I don't think I will do it because this gun law is too strict"?


    At that point, the gun laws become irrelivant. Now when we are taling about these stories of killers going into malls or schools to do their killing, the anti-gun laws now become very relivant, why? Because these laws now become the killer's friend, he can select himself one of the many "gun free" zones for his killing spree.


    I have started calling these gun free zones a new name, "killers buffet". These placed offer all the best selections of victims for their killing pleasure just like your local oriental buffet offers a large dining selection.

    All with no risk to the killer himself, so remember boys and girls, your government is counting on you to keep the buffet fully stocked at all times.
     
  7. sheik-yerbouti

    sheik-yerbouti Big Time BS'er

    I agree Snaf. Most of the college and mall shootings in the USA seem to have occured in gun free zones.

    It seems to me, shooters choose such places as they fully understand that their victims will be unable to return fire, being unarmed themselves.

    I would refuse to shop in, or patronise any gun free zone if I lived in the USA
     
  8. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    Gun free zone laws are just "feel good" laws. The only thing that they prevent, is the legally licensed, law abiding person from having a gun. The criminal doesn't care, especially one who plans on being dead before they leave the "Gun Free Zone" anyway.

    Gun free zones are there to give people a false sense of security. They are just like putting unarmed guards at the entrance to a school. The only thing this helps, if a whacked out gunman goes to the school it that you can be pretty sure where to find the first body. At the front entrance, wearing a security guard uniform.
     
  9. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    I just wanted to point out some of the effects of the, "Gun Free Zone".

    When a gunman went on a shooting rampage in an Omaha, Nebraska mall...

    Omaha Mall, Scene Of Mass Killing, Reopens, Visitors Place Memorials At Site Of Massacre; Tighter Security Posted - CBS News

    There was a legally licensed, person with a concealed carry permit, in this store, but since the mall was a, "Gun Free Zone", this legally licensed, law abidinig citizen, left his firearm in his vehicle, so he wouldn't be in violation of the law. This person was lucky enough to get out unharmed, but he said he was in a position to have taken out the gunman, and maybe saved lives.

    Now lets talk abou another situation...

    About a year ago, in a mall in Salt Lake City, Utah, a gunmen, loaded with a backpack full of ammunition, a shotgun and a .38-caliber pistol, entered the mall.

    An off duty police officer, didn't obay the signs that said it was a "Gun Free Zone" kept the assailant busy while responding officers had time to arrive. An officer and the off duty officer, engaged the bad guy and stopped him before he was able to unload his backpack full of ammo on the, unarmed, sheep at the mall.

    Police: Off-Duty Cop Saved Lives In Mall, Salt Lake City Police Say Officer Prevented Gunman Who Fatally Shot 5 From Killing More - CBS News

    Two opposite, situations, as one was a CCW holder who was in a situation to make a difference, but couldn't because he was obligated to leave his gun in his car and the other was in a situation to make a difference, and had his firearm, even though it was a gun free zone.
     
  10. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    I feel it?s such a quandary. Do you break the law and carry or not. At my job it?s probably not worth getting fired over so I don?t but going into stores and such I think its? worth getting into trouble. My thing is I don?t like to keep anything in the chamber so I would need to breach a round before I could use my gun which could be a matter of life and death. But I feel compelled to be a little safe.
     
  11. Old Salt

    Old Salt Big Time BS

    Revolver. Old fashioned, and not as sexy, but leave the hammer sitting on an empty chamber and when you need it, just squeeze the trigger. You shouldn't, but if you need a lot of rounds to do what you need to do, you've got a problem.
     
  12. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    No I have a Combat Comander Colt 45 and a AMT 380 backup, both automatics. The newer relvolvers don't really need the hammer sitting on an empty chamber. You would be safer to leave the next chamber coming up empty.
     
  13. ImWithStupid

    ImWithStupid New Member

    With the Commander, just don't have the hammer ****ed.
     
  14. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    Yeah that's true. I just feel leary with something in the chamber. I should though. I have an extended clip of 8 rounds. If I put one down the pipe I will be carring 9 rounds.
     
  15. Ali

    Ali Eschew obfuscation

    I feel far more safe living in an area surrounded by rednecks with guns who know how to use them than I would in a gun free zone.
     
  16. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Amen my friend, criminals are not stupid, they are going to avoid areas that are assumed to have armed people.

    My weapon of choice is the Glock model 20 10mm. 15 rounds in the magazine and one in the pipe gives me all the ammo I should ever need.
     
  17. snafu

    snafu Big Time BS'er

    I know those Glocks are accurate as sin and a damn fine gun but I'm old fashion. I can't seem to get over the square look they have. I want to get a 40 Cal Baby Desert Eagle. I really don't shoot enough to warrant another gun though.
     
  18. timesjoke

    timesjoke Progressive Killer

    Don't let that stop you, I own over 30 guns and some of them have had a lot of money put into them for the competitions I still attend. My best year I took 4th in combat.
     
  19. wez

    wez Big Time BS


    Safer than in an area without a bunch of drunks who beat women, children and animals and carry guns??? :D
     
  20. Old Salt

    Old Salt Big Time BS

    Here's a question for you legal-types.

    Scenario: As a civilian, you're in a gun-free zone but you're carrying. Some punk decides to start shooting, but you take him (or her) out.

    Question: Could you be charged with manslaughter because you were disobeying a law?
     

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