Re: Space travel is no longer SF

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by Jasper Janssen, Oct 8, 2007.

  1. On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:26:45 -0700, John Schilling
    <schillin@spock.usc.edu> wrote:

    >"Electric Propulsion" is the generic term for all the various sorts
    >of ion thrusters, plasma thrusters, colloid thrusters, arcjets, and
    >other such gadgets. For example, the technical conference that kept
    >me away from usenet the past two weeks was the "International Electric
    >Propulsion Conference". It's assumed that there will be sufficient
    >context to distinguish between electric propulsion for spacecraft and,
    >say, electric propulsion for automobiles or submarines.


    So is a Bussard ramjet electric or nuclear propulsion? Or both?

    Jasper
     
  2. Jasper Janssen <jasper@jjanssen.org> wrote:
    >John Schilling <schillin@spock.usc.edu> wrote:
    >>"Electric Propulsion" is the generic term for all the various sorts
    >>of ion thrusters, plasma thrusters, colloid thrusters, arcjets, and
    >>other such gadgets. For example, the technical conference that kept
    >>me away from usenet the past two weeks was the "International Electric
    >>Propulsion Conference". It's assumed that there will be sufficient
    >>context to distinguish between electric propulsion for spacecraft and,
    >>say, electric propulsion for automobiles or submarines.

    >
    >So is a Bussard ramjet electric or nuclear propulsion? Or both?


    Don't we have to get a working one before we classify it?

    Dave "slightly depressed when I found out it wouldn't actually work as
    described due to not-enough-fuel-available" DeLaney
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  3. On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:20:57 -0400, dbd@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
    wrote:
    >Jasper Janssen <jasper@jjanssen.org> wrote:
    >>John Schilling <schillin@spock.usc.edu> wrote:
    >>>"Electric Propulsion" is the generic term for all the various sorts
    >>>of ion thrusters, plasma thrusters, colloid thrusters, arcjets, and
    >>>other such gadgets. For example, the technical conference that kept
    >>>me away from usenet the past two weeks was the "International Electric
    >>>Propulsion Conference". It's assumed that there will be sufficient
    >>>context to distinguish between electric propulsion for spacecraft and,
    >>>say, electric propulsion for automobiles or submarines.

    >>
    >>So is a Bussard ramjet electric or nuclear propulsion? Or both?

    >
    >Don't we have to get a working one before we classify it?


    Nah.
    >
    >Dave "slightly depressed when I found out it wouldn't actually work as
    > described due to not-enough-fuel-available" DeLaney


    Isn't that just a matter of how large you make the scoopfield? Or is the
    problem that you run into an unfavorable ratio between energy put into
    making magnetic fields versus energy collected from the fusion?

    jasper
     

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